rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Can't blame them
If voters approved it, why not?  |
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RayW
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Layton, UT
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| Government Does Not Equal People anymore
No matter that we are supposedly a 'government of the people, by the people, for the people...', corporate entities take precedence over your non-rights. So if your community wants to do something a corporation does want you to do, you are not allowed. Been that way for over 10 years now, get use to it.
Well, maybe this court will tell the Telcos that people have more rights and if they want to do something useful, they can. The heck with potential losses to upper management bonuses (which they will take out of retirement programs to make up for the loss anyway, but that is up to those affected people to make the bosses behave).
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | It's already settled!
"Since voters approved the building of a citywide fiber network last summer.."
ENOUGH! They voted and it was approved. Build the damn fiber network AS MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS WANTED. |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26 | reply to rachelsfx
Re: Can't blame them
And the legal Yadda yadda goes on and on.
You notice you can never get a simple answer from ANY of these people? It allways has to be fought to the bitter end. Yes, I know it's all about money, but still... |
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Eric Martin
join:2005-06-19
66308 |  Shakes head.
I can't believe how easy it is to stall a simple project like this. When it passes , it should be built. Judges shouldn't impede.
Obviously the private sector is scared to death in seeing this succeed. |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
1 edit | reply to RayW
Re: Government Does Not Equal People anymore
What you fail to understand is that a corporation as a legal entity has the same basic rights you do as a human citizen. This is why crap like this gets going and goes on and on.
If the corporation didn't have the same rights we do, they wouldn't get away with half the crap they do because they wouldn't have the legal rights they hide behind. |
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mbvance
join:2003-02-04
South Gate, CA | reply to Eric Martin
Re: Shakes head.
Hopefully the voters turn right around and vote the "incumbents" out of office next chance they get since they are representing them the way they are supposed to. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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Re: Government Does Not Equal People anymore
said by RayW  :No matter that we are supposedly a 'government of the people, by the people, for the people...', corporate entities take precedence over your non-rights. We are also a government of LAWS. And the bond issue was found by the District Court to be in violation of the state passed "Local Government Fair Competition Act". Lafayette is using their right to appeal to the LA Supreme Court". The court will decide if the Bond Issue is legal or not.
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TKJunkMail
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said by Fatal Vector :What you fail to understand is that a corporation as a legal entity has the same basic rights you do as a human citizen. This is why crap like this gets going and goes on and on. If the corporation didn't have the same rights we do, they wouldn't get away with half the crap they do because they wouldn't have the legal rights they hide behind. In this case, though, it wasn't a Corporation that sued. It was a citizen of Lafayette.
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MonkeyPox4
join:2004-12-21
Lafayette, LA
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I voted BellSouth and Cox out of my life a long, long time ago. Directv and Verizon Wireless have given me tv, mobile phones, and wireless internet at a pretty decent price - and the best part is, I don't remember the last time I had to call customer service for a billing or service issue.
Plus when I came home after the hurricanes last year, as soon as the power came back up, my dish recievers lit up. I thought for sure I'd have to realign the thing. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Where are the original complaintents?
Where are Elizabeth W. Naquin and Matthew B. Eastin who filed the injunction before?  |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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Re: It's already settled!
said by Rob :ENOUGH! They voted and it was approved. Build the damn fiber network AS MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS WANTED. LOL... This is the USA, sometimes the guy who gets the plurality of votes doesn't win 
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Government Does Not Equal People anymore
One citizen. Compared to [enough] voters that said, "Yes." |
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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said by Fatal Vector :What you fail to understand is that a corporation as a legal entity has the same basic rights you do as a human citizen. This is why crap like this gets going and goes on and on. If the corporation didn't have the same rights we do, they wouldn't get away with half the crap they do because they wouldn't have the legal rights they hide behind. Actually, corporations have more actual legal rights than the common citizens of an area. We have seen that out here in several areas. It boils down to the corporations having access to more money to pay for lawyers that a city does not. A city has to raise taxes and is more accountable (your area may differ), a corporation just charges you a half cent more spread over a much larger area to pay for the costs of lawsuits and bribes.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to moonpuppy
Re: Where are the original complaintents?
One backed away, and the other one is probably off enjoying their complimentary trip to Las Vegas for the temporary use of their name.... |
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Ga Dawg
join:2003-09-11
Marietta, GA
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Re: Government Does Not Equal People anymore
said by tsu9 :One citizen. Compared to [enough] voters that said, "Yes." If enough voters voted to confiscate his property would you be in favor of allowing that? |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to Karl Bode
No Competition
Until whoever is really behind these lawsuits actually starts building a FTTH network, how can there be unfair competition when there really is no competition. |
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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
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Re: Government Does Not Equal People anymore
said by Ga Dawg :If enough voters voted to confiscate his property would you be in favor of allowing that? You mean like imminent domain? Isn't that still alive and well?
Voting is one of the inherit benefits, and downfalls of democracy. On the one hand, everyone gets a say. On the other, individual(s) on the losing vote don't get their way - kinda hard to appease both camps. Last I checked, America (for the most part) has agreed to a variety of "majority vote" systems. |
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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
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Re: No Competition
said by Sammer :Until whoever is really behind these lawsuits actually starts building a FTTH network, how can there be unfair competition when there really is no competition. This is a matter of the courts. Keep your common sense out of legal actions.  |
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL
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Re: Government Does Not Equal People anymore
Government has that ability, yes; albiet, in a form that requires just compensation for the previous landowner's troubles.
Of course, that isn't a terribly popular measure, as you might expect. But, it still does happen these days.
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