Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
| har-de-har-har
And now the mismanagement chickens are coming home to roost. It is just too bad a bunch of my friends who work for this jewel of business genius are going to get screwed again.
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digitalis99
join:2003-07-26
Bellevue, WA | 55% using dial-up
Excuse me???? I live in Seattle, and I don't know ANYONE who uses dial-up. DSL, Cable, Wireless, Fiber...you name it. Anything BUT dial-up.
Where the heck did he get his numbers? |
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Qwerst
@gatesfoundation.org | He's assuming that anyone not using Qwest DSL is on dialup. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| reply to digitalis99
said by digitalis99  :Excuse me???? I live in Seattle, and I don't know ANYONE who uses dial-up. DSL, Cable, Wireless, Fiber...you name it. Anything BUT dial-up. Where the heck did he get his numbers? All bet I know; how many people with broadband connections also have a dialup modem with a small number of hours allocated to a dialup account each month. They never use it but it is there. I was asked a one point by Qwest if I wanted to set up such a dialup account, for back up, and the lady seemed surprised when I told her I wasn't interested that I had not dialup modem installed in my computer for years.
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| ...I'll bet you're right.
There's a deal like that here. Pretty sure SBC does it, but I know for sure a smaller outfit near here does this for their customers. Even though it's there, nobody really uses it, let alone knows that it's there. A friend of mine has the option of using the dialup from this company, never has, but they set it up as part of the included deal.
Good luck Qwest. I bet tons of people would pay for turbo fiber connections. |
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Poopsmith
That's Mr. Smith To You.
join:2003-03-12
Boulder, CO | reply to Qwerst
Look everyone it's Bill Gates posting anonymously! |
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Vodka2
join:2005-12-20
Sacramento, CA | reply to Qwerst
LOL. Are you working for Gates Foundation, there, Qwerst?
Bollocks to the cures... maybe we can get Bill to kick down for some fiber in PDX and Seattle :-D
(ok, kidding, we need cures for disease far more than fiber broadband) |
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GilbertMark
Premium
join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ | reply to digitalis99
Oh, so you know EVERYONE in the Seattle area do you?
Wow. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| In defense of Qwest
OK, maybe they are lagging in deploying "next-gen" broadband to "high value" city-slicker customers. I don't care; even with their poor debt position, they seem to be making an effort to provide most of their customer base with basic DSL, before suppling the Lucky Few with Next-Gen.
In this area, there's both Qwest and VZ territories. 'drive around the Qwest territory, and you see alot of those mini-DSLAM cabinets that they've deployed for DSL service, in rural areas. My vacation house in the forest in the low-population east side of Oregon just got DSL.
Unfortunately, I live in VZ territory. Their strategy seems to be to focus on only a portion of their customers with next-gen things like FIOS, and leave the rest of us to twist in the winf. |
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
Premium
join:2001-07-24
Omaha, NE
clubs: | No IPTV here
We don't have IPTV in Omaha it's just standard good old Coax cable.
It's not even digital. |
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA | Typo, last paragraph.
Notebart is also likely stalling on serious upgrades because ...
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gar8182
Premium
join:2004-02-18
Seattle, WA | reply to digitalis99
Re: 55% using dial-up
He asked his mommy and grandma  |
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BPLSUCKS
join:2006-04-26
Grand Ledge, MI
| reply to The Beer
Re: No IPTV here
Same here in Mid-Michigan . We are a verizon sattilite (ex-GTE)in AT&T territory. We get nothing. We have POTS...thats it...and for cable we have comcast or millenium digital media depending on where you live (Local yokels). We have a working BPL system though and possibly a fiber network that will be installed and then turned over to verizon for management (BPON FTTH or FTTP system). No DSL or even residential ISDN...you either have cable/BPL/sattilite or you have dial-up. Detroit and lansing are ear-marked for AT&T lightspeed and we hope that verizon will deploy FIOS or our city will deploy Fiber and then lease it out. |
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nohelpWA
join:2001-12-06
Federal Way, WA
| reply to digitalis99
Re: 55% using dial-up
No dial-up around here either. It's a poor 4 or 6? whatever Comcast or 1.5 QWEST with no 7s here on my block. If I were to move two blocks East or Southeast I could get the 7s. This is ridiculous!
We need and want choices. I call every once in awhile and bug them (QWEST)about upgrading here! That is how this apartment complex got cable (Excite@Home), I started calling every two weeks for over a year!
Just start calling and telling them you are very interested in their services. |
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damox
Premium
join:2002-01-07
Olympia, WA
 ·Comcast Formerly ..
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Re: In defense of Qwest
I think the problem is, not so much that they're lagging, but that they're trying to prevent others from doing what they are unwilling or unable to do. In other words, they are trying to prevent fair competition!
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Cherry pick?
quote:
Like AT&T, Qwest has been busy trying to eliminate local franchise obligations, which would allow them to cherry pick the most profitable areas - pleasing investors, but obviously leaving coverage gaps when it comes to next-generation broadband and IPTV services.
What is Seattle doing if not cherry picking? What is the TV franchise situation in Seattle? I'll bet Seattle gives themselves a franchise as of yesterday. A franchise agreement that tells the people in the woods to go pound salt.
Why can a government give its self a better deal they it gives private business? Seattle should spell out what deal it will give its self and have to offer the same deal to Quest.
People talk out of two different orifices when it comes to municipal broad band. If it is good for the government it is good for business.
How is municipal broad band going to help you people in the woods? If the cities cherry pick the profitable areas you are going to be on dial-up forever. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Transmaster
Re: har-de-har-har
quote:
Comcast, which leads in market share among broadband Internet service providers, averages just 18 percent penetration across all of its markets. For all broadband providers combined, the national broadband penetration rate is 45 percent.
»www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17029
Broad band is not like water or electricity. Most people do not want or need it. Government supplied broadband is being pushed by business that want a free ride on the backs of tax payers. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace
4 edits | Sorry, but that's a crock of BS. Broadband has fundamentally changed how business is done and has the potential of turning low-economic areas into thriving technology sectors. I live in a very rural area and I know many, many people here who were waiting for YEARS for SNET->SBC->AT&T to install remote terminals for DSL to become available. To date, they still haven't done it. If it weren't for Comcast finally bringing HSI around here in 2002, we'd still be on 56k dial-up.
If most people don't need or want it, why is it that I can drive down my road which has approximately 50 houses on it in a stretch of four miles or so and almost every single one of them has their own wireless connection? I guess most people need wireless connections running on 56k dial-up, huh?
And compared to most of the BS garbage the government throws money at, a few million invested in a municipal fiber network would be a GREAT investment.
And I laugh to think that you actually believe a few small, most likely family owned businesses are able to bully around the government into these fiber network initiatives. Unless you can bribe lobby the government with a few hundred million dollars a year (like the cable companies and Bells do) the government isn't going to do a damn thing for you. Speaking of which, did you ever wonder how come the Bells didn't simply take their lobby money and actually INVEST IT IN THEIR OWN NETWORKS INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE IT WOULD BE? |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| said by LinuxJunkie :Broadband has fundamentally changed how business is done and has the potential of turning low-economic areas into thriving technology sectors. Seriously, how does that work exactly? Does everyone go from growing beets (to take an example of what people do out in the country around here) to writing code, or open a call center or something?
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to LinuxJunkie
said by LinuxJunkie : up. If most people don't need or want it, why is it that I can drive down my road which has approximately 50 houses on it in a stretch of four miles or so and almost every single one of them has their own wireless connection? I guess most people need wireless connections running on 56k dial-up, huh? Did you read my post with the link. You world is very small and perhaps you observation skills are laking.
45 percent of the people that have broadband available get it. It is a fact, live with it. Verizon is spending billions on FIOS. Where it has been available for one year or more only 15% get it. These are the facts of the real big world, not your small world of gamers.
50 house in one mile will not get municipal broad band. If municipal broad band cherry picks the prime areas who is going to run fiber to you? |
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