grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | Honestly
Who cares. Does it matter what technology will carry your 100Mbps connection in the end.  |
|
rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Yep.
If you junked all those slow DSL lines running 256k connections and went with only 1.5 or higher, cable would probably be smoking DSL.
If you want to truly measure how "good" the USA is see how many 6 meg or higher subs there are. |
|
Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | But that would indicate fairly paltry coverage and the FCC would be forced to slap the knuckles of the people who comp them Vegas airline tickets. That would be unacceptable. |
|
Jovi
join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA
 ·T-Mobile US
| The numbers
By looking at the numbers(depending on accurate data), the cable companies probably could benefit from having a lower priced/lower speed tier. I'd take a million customers at $30 or less than not have them at all. 
--
OutKast Clan |
|
N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to rachelsfx
Re: Honestly
said by rachelsfx  :Yep. If you junked all those slow DSL lines running 256k connections and went with only 1.5 or higher, cable would probably be smoking DSL. If you want to truly measure how "good" the USA is see how many 6 meg or higher subs there are. Like the 6 meg line I was supposed to be getting from Comcast that was, in all actuality, a 2.7 meg line.
And yes, I checked the signal strength, tweaked my system, replaced my router, blah blah blah. All I got out of Comcast was 2.7 meg and a bill for $46 at the end of the month.
My DSL connection is $26/mo, and I get 3 megs down from them (for real!) and better upstream speed.
Same speed for close to half the price, sounds like a deal to me....
--
Never ask what sort of a computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If not, why embarrass him? -Tom Clancy |
|
tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs:
·T-Mobile US
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Jovi
Re: The numbers
said by Jovi :By looking at the numbers(depending on accurate data), the cable companies probably could benefit from having a lower priced/lower speed tier. I'd take a million customers at $30 or less than not have them at all. Many cable companies do have a lower tier, but they don't advertise it and only offer it if people are cancelling due to price, it seems.
I believe that cable fears if they advertise their cheaper lines, then they'll lose more customers off of their $40/mo plan than they would gain by advertising their $30/mo plan, regardless of the massive speed cut between the services.
--
|- »www.lp.org/issues/issues.shtml -| |- Cato Daily Podcast »www.cato.org/rss/daily_podcast.xml -| |
|
pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | reply to rachelsfx
Re: Honestly
Exactly. I also have a sneaky feeling the telco's are including ISDN connections (Yes, they still exist) as 'broadband'.
The FCC's 200Kbps definition and classification as an 'advanced service line' is laughable. |
|
bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| ISDN200k ergo it's not counted.
A lot of people only want the cheapest connection which is where 768k and 256k come in. If they sold 56k DSL at 10$ a month we'd see people getting it. Most Americans just want basic internet and speed is not important to them outside of surfing. |
|
hurfy
Premium
join:2002-08-06
Spokane, WA | reply to pabster
hehe FCC wants to define my old wimpy dsl as advanced and you all want to define it as nothing.
I am thinking we need a definition that gets my old 640k in the middle  |
|
pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | reply to tiger72
Re: The numbers
Yeah, mine has a "low tier", 128k / 128k. Problem is, it is only $10 cheaper than the "regular" tier. Now wonder they don't advertise it! |
|
Bytezboy
join:2001-05-17
New York, NY | reply to grandpinaple
Re: Honestly
why do I see cable compared with dsl so often on the front page here? Does anyone really care? pffff  |
|
travelguy
join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM
| reply to pabster
Re: The numbers
said by pabster :Yeah, mine has a "low tier", 128k / 128k. Problem is, it is only $10 cheaper than the "regular" tier. Now wonder they don't advertise it! OTOH, if all you want is 24/7 email and access to the occasional web page to check weather or book an airline ticket, its just the ticket.
Cable and telcos don't advertise such packages for two reasons - they are afraid they will cannibalize their higher cost packages and they dilute their Average Revenue per Unit (ARPU) numbers that Wall Street is so fond of. |
|
jtorre69
join:2005-12-26
Hollywood, FL | reply to pabster
my cableco has a low tier, they call it 6meg, you get 3meg at best!!!!!!! |
|
PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| Zip code criterion bogus, and they know it ...
'like in my zip code. Only a tiny portion has broadband, yet the whole area is counted as "served".
The problem is, the FCC has great incentive to use the most optimistic, highly misleading metric possible, and that gives them the most chance of avoiding the "immediate action" directive in the Telecomm Act. Since they get to choose which metric they use, they are naturally going to pick the one that gives them the greatest chance ofr having to do nothing. |
|
pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
·Mediacom
| reply to travelguy
Re: The numbers
Yeah, 128kbps service might be fine for occasional web surfing and e-mail. But why would I pay only $10 less than their "regular" tier for it? I'd be far better off (price wise) with either a cheap dial-up account (which can oft be had for less than $10 a month) or an entry-level DSL offering, both considerably cheaper.
Perhaps the other carriers don't operate the same way, I have no idea. I was surprised they weren't offering 128kbps for like $20 or $25 a month. I certainly wouldn't pay any more than that. |
|
docchat
join:2002-10-02
New York, NY
| reply to jtorre69
My company's lowest tier is 10/2...Verizon Fios....and this is dedicated bandwidth (all mine), not shared like yours is...so stay on the point of this topic, point being that this is a total BS report by the FCC. And who cares if DSL has more penetration than cable or vice versa. Broadband should be more readily available and more widespread than it is now. If they are going to take the USF from us, they should make some better use of it. |
|
toadlife
Premium
join:2004-05-03
Lemoore, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to Bytezboy
Re: Honestly
said by Bytezboy :why do I see cable compared with dsl so often on the front page here? Does anyone really care? pffff For some reason, yes. It's like Chevy/Ford or Intel/AMD. People get behind one or the other and cheer it on like it's their son at a litle league game. Some of them are quite fanatical.
--
Break yourself from the Windows admin nipple...
»nonadmin.editme.com |
|
bchris02
join:2006-05-25 | reply to pabster
Re: The numbers
Cox is 256/256 in my area for their $30 tier. In ares with Verizon its 768 down instead of 256. |
|
ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT | Now u see it... now u dont
What happened to the " DSL TRUMPS CABLE " headline? Aww, did the pro-cable admin of this site realize the headline wasnt so PRO-CABLE ??
LOL |
|
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to docchat
Re: The numbers
said by docchat :My company's lowest tier is 10/2...Verizon Fios....and this is dedicated bandwidth (all mine), not shared like yours is...so stay on the point of this topic, point being that this is a total BS report by the FCC. And who cares if DSL has more penetration than cable or vice versa. Broadband should be more readily available and more widespread than it is now. If they are going to take the USF from us, they should make some better use of it. BS!
any type of connection is shared at some point along the way
--
You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
|
