bluepoint951
join:2001-03-20
Carrollton, TX | Loss on HB699
The governor vetos HB699 and the cable company stepps in and raises rates.... that doesn't suprise me..... |
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Varlik
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Anderson, SC
1 edit | Time to Pay the Price
That will teach Lafayette residents to defy Cox and BellSouth. Yes Bow before your overlords. Do not attempt to adjust your rwin. We control your upstream and your downstream. --
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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1 edit |  BB prices down; but gas; electric; water prices up
Terry Huval, director of Lafayette Utilities System, says the rate-hikes are part of the reason why the triple-play fiber system is needed. The system, once built, will offer TV and broadband at rates 20% lower than Cox, says Huval.
Yes, but will the water, gas, & electric rates rise to subsidize broadband? That is the danger with government controlled utilities.
If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary.
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Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01 | Shouldn't. They'll be providing them at just above cost, unlike cox which wants to make a profit. |
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bbenso1
join:2004-11-28
Baltimore, MD
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said by TKJunkMail  :If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary. Fantastic. Now just what percentage of the people do you think actually subscribe to only those 20 channels and nothing more? I'd wager that number is well below 20% if not in single digits. Besides which, the decrease in price of the basic cable package is just over half the value of the increase in price of the other packages - which are the ones most likely subscribed to by the majority of the population.
Hey TK, do you have Basic Cable service or do you subscribe to a higher package? |
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deadzoned
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join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
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| Brainwashed by Big Business
The government is not paying for the fiber plan. It is being paid through the sale of bonds. It's an investment. How many times does it have to be said? Maybe a different language or something?
You come back with some concrete evidence of rising utility rates and how they are somehow connected with the fiber plan and then you can make those kind of statements. Until then, maybe just not comment about something that you are obviously so ignorant about.
Regardless - is it your position that we should just somehow trust the incumbants to do the right thing? Heck show me some evidence of that happening and I might be more inclined to be more understanding of the incumbants.
You do know that Lafayette went to both BellSouth and Cox on more than one occasion asking them to provide fiber access?
You do know that they even were willing to help subsidize it right?
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kbennett
join:1999-08-30
San Diego, CA
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Re: BB prices down; but gas; electric; water prices up
said by TKJunkMail :If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary. You also lose The Weather Channel, ESPN, and the TV Guide channel from the Basic Cable tier.
I should hope the price would go down if you're removing channels... |
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Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01
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said by TKJunkMail :Terry Huval, director of Lafayette Utilities System, says the rate-hikes are part of the reason why the triple-play fiber system is needed. The system, once built, will offer TV and broadband at rates 20% lower than Cox, says Huval.
Yes, but will the water, gas, & electric rates rise to subsidize broadband? That is the danger with government controlled utilities. If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary. Ahh, yes, the price *is* going down for the absolute basic, but, extended went up by ~$5, internet went up ~$2, basic goes down by ~$2. Overall, a price INCREASE. |
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ricep5
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Jacksonville, FL
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I am not sure why you keep asking these same questions over and over when it has been explained ad nauseum that the utility bills are not impacted by the LUS Broadband initiative.
Go hang in the Motor Fuels Tax Forum and moan about how it subsidizes Mass Transit. |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | reply to TKJunkMail
They're making more money- I'm thinking the rate increase is on the 'standard' (that is what we call it) Many more people subscribe to this tier than the basic |
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viperpa33s
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
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Re: Brainwashed by Big Business
said by deadzoned :
The government is not paying for the fiber plan. It is being paid through the sale of bonds. It's an investment. How many times does it have to be said? Maybe a different language or something?
The town government won't be paying the initial investment that is true but the town will be issuing the bonds. What happens when the bonds reach maturity, who do you think pays out and where they get the money from?
I am not saying I agree with Verizon or Cox. All I am saying is the town has to make enough money to support the system and pay the bonds at maturity. If the town can do that without pinching the taxpayers then I don't have a issue with it. |
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IsmellA-Rat
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| I smell a RAT!
Don't subscribers love paying higher cable rates to support fat-cat lawyers down in AOHELL land (that would be Va).
With the world going into the crapper, I hope they lose loads of subscribers and have to adopt an AOL model.
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wtansill
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join:2000-10-10
Falls Church, VA
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Re: Brainwashed by Big Business
said by viperpa33s : said by deadzoned :
The government is not paying for the fiber plan. It is being paid through the sale of bonds. It's an investment. How many times does it have to be said? Maybe a different language or something?
The town government won't be paying the initial investment that is true but the town will be issuing the bonds. What happens when the bonds reach maturity, who do you think pays out and where they get the money from? They will likely price the service at a point that will pay for ongoing operations and maintenance as well as debt service/principal repayment on the bonds floated to build the system. And that price will still likely undercut the cable and telecomm companies...
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zitch
join:2002-07-08
Lafayette, LA
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But those taxpayers even voted to take that risk! Why do you even have any issue with it? I don't get it, what with people from outside the state telling this city what to do with its *own* money?
I'm no big-government fan, but this seems to be one case of how a democracy is supposed to work at a city level, just to be blocked by corporations! |
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deadzoned
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join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
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First, it's BellSouth and Cox not Verizon and Cox.
Second, and most important, is that it would be paid off over a 25 year period. With that much time, I highly doubt they would fail at paying back the bonds. More than likely, they will pay off the bonds within the first 5 years.
If they actually ever get to a point where they can build the system, it's going to be a major money-maker for Lafayette. Aside from the local customers, it opens up the way for a major boon in business from a corporate perspective. I just don't see this project failing if it gets off the ground. It could be another positive example of the value of FTTH. |
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bbenso1
join:2004-11-28
Baltimore, MD
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Re: BB prices down; but gas; electric; water prices up
said by kbennett :You also lose The Weather Channel, ESPN, and the TV Guide channel from the Basic Cable tier. I should hope the price would go down if you're removing channels... And, on a related note, if you had Basic Cable just for ESPN or TWC (which I'd be willing to bet some people do) and you want to keep those channels your bill actually goes up from $15.96 to to $46.99!! That's right, if you want to keep watching ESPN your cable bill could go up more than 300%.
Anyone want to place any wagers on what the most popular channel was on the old Basic Cable package? My money's on ESPN. |
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bbenso1
join:2004-11-28
Baltimore, MD
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said by kbennett :You also lose The Weather Channel, ESPN, and the TV Guide channel from the Basic Cable tier. I should hope the price would go down if you're removing channels... Although, I'm sure I've heard repeatedly that the per-subscriber rates for ESPN are a major factor in keeping cable package prices high. If that's really the case, shouldn't removing ESPN from a package reduce the cost by more than $3? And that's not even counting any other channels that are getting removed...
On a side note, anyone else ever notice how TKJunkMail mysteriously disappears from discussions when someone points out facts inconvenient to his arguments? |
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | reply to deadzoned
Re: Brainwashed by Big Business
Which is EXACTLY why they're working so hard to stall it. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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join:2001-03-29
The Lou | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: BB prices down; but gas; electric; water prices up
What's the point of Basic if it only offers (supposedly) better quality local channels?
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jjgb10
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join:2004-11-24
Kasson, MN
clubs: | Should be lowering prices!!!
You would think that is Cox wanted to keep customers, they would lower their prices, not raise them. That is what Cablevision has been doing in FIOS areas, lowering prices and offering triple play bundles. |
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