 mobbo
join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Wow... I guarantee this asshat has an unpatched Windows eMachine from 1997 that is running 10 bots on an IRC network without him knowing about it. That's what's slowing his staff's "internets" from transfering.
Sometimes it is so painful to see how completely unqualified politicians are to be LIVING ALONE, let alone making the rules by which our nation is shaped. I love how he dropped the Republicans' favorite bullet-point: small businesses and families. Pulled that one straight from the Republican BS Manual. | |
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nil
Java Geek
join:2000-11-27
Host:
Webmasters and Dev..
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| Recycling, I think recycling is key If you too much material is filling up the tubes, I think we should take some of that material out and recycle it as new material to come out the other end of the tubes which later can be reinserted into the given tubes and recycled again.
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
 ·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Recycling, I think recycling is key said by nil  :If you too much material is filling up the tubes, I think we should take some of that material out and recycle it as new material to come out the other end of the tubes which later can be reinserted into the given tubes and recycled again. We already tried to do that. It's called a "repost" and people get flamed for it.
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braynes
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Waterville, ME | Not So smart I can only think that at the start of every day when this fool awakes, the first thing he does is fall out of bed and suffers some form of brain defect.
and Alas the day goes down hill from there.
Bruce | |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | gosh! idiot ... vote for pedro | |
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jimbo92107
@cox.net
| My god, the inanity... There's nothing inherently wrong with using analogies to communicate technical concepts, but first you must understand those concepts yourself. Otherwise, as with Senator Stevens, you make yourself look like an utter buffoon.
Stevens was so stumbling and incoherent in his remarks (I suffered through an mp3 of his whole rant) that it was difficult not to see it as a comedy sketch.
Stevens is 85 years old, and obviously he has no idea how anything more complicated than a pencil works. Actually, he probably thinks they still use lead in the "lead." Graphite would rock this guy's world.
Point is, a guy like that should not be in charge of deciding anything involving technology, because he's so out of touch with it. Someday we all may be in a similar position, but by that time our loyal robots will guide us gently through our dotage. Meanwhile, Stevens should just retire and hire a nanny for himself. | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| BC Bud? Do they get that in Alaska?
That this braindead used-car salesman in any way shapes any policy of this country is a complete disgrace. This reminds me of why C-Span is the most painful tv viewing there is. It's one thing to catch the soundbites, but to hear that much incoherent babbling unedited is downright scary and nauseating.
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GlennAllen
join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Uh-huh... As has been proven time and time again, having a brain is not a prerequisite for holding public office. Do we need Net neutrality? Well, do we need election spending limits? Dear Mr. Congressman, if you want to "clear the tubes", then vote to make spam illegal--something you have to opt-in to get. That'll remove more than half the traffic on the Internet--way more. :-D | |
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SnafuJohn
join:2002-02-14
Freehold, NJ | Mandatory Retirement That's what we get when we have 83 year olds as Senators. Take the pension and RELAX fer cryinoutloud. | |
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moby866
Premium
join:2000-10-07
Above you | I would be ashamed... To have this guy representing me.... | |
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willis78
@gwi.net
| Sver overload Looking to contact my own senator to try to get someone to shut this guy up I can upon this on her contact page
During those times when the U.S. Senate is receiving particularly high volumes of mail, the Senate server can become overwhelmed and messages can be misdirected.
Also was my connection just choppy or was he just stuttering alot? All I kept hearing for a while was but but but and him repeating himself a buncha times | |
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seaman
Premium
join:2000-12-08
Seattle, WA
| Check yer notes Ted Sounds like he recently had a technology briefing by someone who explained that internet backbone networks are like a series of *pipes* that provide bandwidth for data traffic and somehow that became...
"We got these tubes ya see,.. and everybody's dumpin' in them at the same time...."  | |
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ConspiracyTheory2021
@ameritech.net
| His biggest mistake was opening his mouth His biggest mistake was opening his mouth on a subject he knew nothing about, now everybody knows why he voted against net neutrality, he was paid off err.. I mean given campaign contributions  . Whoever told him do vote this way forgot to tell him to shut his mouth, which most politicians are smart enough to do. Politicians are just pawns of the corporations and do what they are told. It is quite sad that laws are made by whatever corporation gives the biggest "campaign contribution". Sorry for the rant but this is what happens all over the country and people stuck to voting against Dumb ass Politician A or Completely Corrupt Politician B. | |
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oddlager
join:2001-11-16
Fullerton, CA
| Whhhhaaat ???? Wow. All I gotta say is WOW. 
As long as their are a majority of congressional representatives who can listen to the right people and not the corporations that are in their pocket ($$$$$) net neutrality shouldn't be jeopardized....unfortunately, I'm not confident in that.  | |
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idlewillkill
Go Blue
Premium
join:2005-09-28
North York, ON
| I'm sure there's some inaccuracies, but I felt compelled to send something.
Sir,
I regret to inform you that your oratory on Net Neutrality was by far the most rediculous tripe I've heard in recent memory.
Let me address a few of the points you bring forth.
First, the Department of Defence doesn't have its own network because of delays on the internet, you even said it yourself, IT IS FOR SECURITY. A network separate from the general internet means that it is much more difficult to "hack", it protects your nation's security.
Second, commercial entities are what make the internet what it is. Your idea to have a separate commecial net would make the internet useless. All I would be able to do is send email to people. I couldn't purchase any goods or services on the net, since, you guessed it, people selling things are commercial entities. Nor would I even be able to perform a basic task like see who won the baseball game a couple hours ago. You worry about Net Nuetrality hurting broadband penetration in the United States. If the internet worked in a fashion you suggested, I guarantee that there would be few takes from the telcos or the cablecos. It's the content on the internet that makes me want to have a faster connection on the internet, which means that I pay my cable company more per month than I would if I were just sending and receiving emails. This in turn gives my cable company more money to do updgrades to their network, as well as incentive to offer higher speeds so that they could in turn secure more revenue from myself and hundreds of thousands of other subscribers they service. The company on the other end does the same thing with their internet provider, just on a much grander scale.
Also, your mention of streaming movies over the internet rather than having them sent via courier isn't just because it saves money for the company I'm purchasing said service from. Why wait a few days for something to come in the mail when I can have it in a matter of minutes? It is absolutely in the best interest of the end user, that consumer that you claim to be championing the cause of. It's win-win for both parties involved. THAT is one of the things that makes the internet such a viable communication medium.
The last point that I care to address is your notion that "The internet is tubes". Rediculous, fine, but I'll play along. What you clearly don't recognize is that the internet, in all its different applications, is literally millions upon millions of "tubes". If I want to send a photo to Johnny in Anchorage, I would hazard there are thousands of viable routes for that photo to get there. Any information is send is broken into small packets, and they get to their destination by taking whatever route is the fastest. Some may take route #1, but partway through that tube gets a little congested, so the rest take route #1985. It's not like all the information coming into Alaska over the internet runs into a funnel and only has one spigot. Bad delays for a packet of information are under a second, not 5 days as you quoted in your statement. More likely, there was an issue with user error, or with the company charged with delivering that email to you.
How do I know that? I'm sending this at 9:51 PM Eastern time, on July 3rd. I'm betting this gets to you and deleted before July 8th.
Regards from Toronto, Canada. | |
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@pivot.net | Bigger Pipes Mabye the Alaskan pipeline is full.. Of he is getting too much spam and does not know how to clean his pipes.. Wait, shouldn't some intern be doing that | |
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | Lord have mercy! Is that the explanation provided by the lobbyist to the senator... I mean,,, not even if your as moron as this guy you can makeup all that!!!
This is the fruit of the ATT and VZ!!!! | |
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areeve
join:2006-07-03
Geneva, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
 ·magicjack.com
| Ignorance The Senator's core argument is accurate and yet all I see are a bunch of lemmings hopping on the 'how stupid he is' bus without providing any evidence otherwise.
His statement that the Internet has a finite capacity is 100% TRUE. That's all he's saying. His tube analogy (whether you like or dislike it) is accurate in that the Internet can only handle a finite amount of traffic during a certain amount of time. Does ayone here disagree with that?
Now, I can argue both for and against what I understand net-neutrality to be. On the for size I do recognize that the telecom companies have a lot of money tied up in harware and cabling to support their chunk of the Internet so why shouldn't they want to be compensated for that? On the other side it appears that they're trying to milk both ends of the cow... they already charge us as consumers to feed us our data so it seems a bit less than ethical to start trying to charge the data provider to prioritize the traffic. That would seem like your favorite airline charging each city to bring people there. I'm also not entirely sure I understand every nuance of this legislation as there's a lot of it.
But to jump on Senator Stevens because his terminology is off when his main point... the Internet can only handle so much traffic... is accurate without defending your positions is just sad. He's not a network engineer... obviously.
Feel free to correct my core statement that at some point in everyone's connection regardless of where you get data from there's a bottleneck such that 'the tube could be full' just like a water pipe... sure all of the data will eventually make it, but at some point speed WILL be sacrificed. | |
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join:2001-11-16
Fullerton, CA
1 edit | Re: Ignorance Hmm...your "for" and "against" examples above leave me scratchin my head, don't think you understand what net neutrality means  | |
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join:2006-07-03
Geneva, IL
·AT&T Midwest
·magicjack.com
| Re: Ignorance No argument with that.
And I'll also add that I'm sure not (and obviously he's not) sure if the existing network would allow everyone to start watching movies over it in real time as the Senator discusses.
I would suspect that if EVERYONE started watching movies tomorrow over their broadband connection that that would bog down the existing infrastructure, however obviously that's silly as the transition to movies over IP will be slower than that giving companies an opportunity to upgrade their network infrastructure. | |
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