kdepasquale
join:2004-03-13
Livermore, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| "fixing it?"
From the article:
Fixing it can be as easy as clicking on "settings" and making a few adjustments, but each system is a little different. To Stay Safe, you need to change the default SSID, disable the SSID broadcast and change the Default Password.
Unfortunately the news is not giving the public accurate information. Most wardrivers are smart enough to get past the disabled ssid broadcast. While disabling ssid broadcast is a deterrent, it's certainly not a fix. WPA/WPA2 or at a MINIMUM WEP is the way to go, |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Yup... some also have scheduling built into the wireless. Why leave your wireless up/open 24x7 ?
Use encryption, and also, don't leave your PC wide open. If your PC isn't open how are your accounts/files going to be accessed? The main thing would then be just securing your network from those that would sponge off of it, or download through your Internet connection. I only use the WiFi access when I need it. It doesn't always play nice with my bluetooth. |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA | The real question...
"Are all war drivers thieves?" - No
"Are all war drivers utter losers?" - Yes
Adam |
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Techman21
join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA
1 edit | And the media's...
perceptions are once again incorrect. This is what happens when ignorant people unfamiliar with a particular field try to explain something to the uneducated.
War driving IS NOT hacking. War driving is merely the practice of pin pointing access points and noting where they are.
And the term hacker has been beaten more than a dead cat. The term hacker: »www.webopedia.com/TERM/H/hacker.html does not mean malicious. It is given a bad rap by ignorant/uneducated reporters. Perhaps they should learn about computers before reporting on them.
lol. I wonder if their "experts" simply read the manual that came with the router/ap. RTFM!! Jebus. How many times does this have to be said. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Go ahead...commit a crime out of ignorance and see how the judicial system treats you. (note:don't actively do this, my point was you could commit a crime unknowingly and still be charged and tried.)
And by their own report they 'illegally' entered into a network. And by default you aren't able to glean all that info on a person. You'd have to actively search for it, which is NOT what war-drivers do.
News agencies need to get a clue. |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:  
·Cox HSI
·Suddenlink
 ·Cingular Wireless
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| It's just the general public's fear from something they don't understand. One person cries wolf and everybody else repeats it. They don't want to understand and news articles like this get our helpdesk ringing with employees asking questions like "Can they steal my (insert something here) if I have wireless?" |
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
Premium
join:2001-05-12
ß | War driving...
What is the purpose but to pirate at a minimum a signal...is that theft...yes.
EOT |
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
Premium
join:2001-05-12
ß | reply to Techman21
Re: And the media's...
yeah sure buddy, keep telling yourself people only war drive to pinpoint locations....jesus. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Techman21
I agree - the media should be putting out the definition of 'cracker'
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(computing) |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:
·Cox HSI
·Suddenlink
·Cingular Wireless
·AT&T Southeast
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to AnonProxy
said by AnonProxy  :yeah sure buddy, keep telling yourself people only war drive to pinpoint locations....jesus. He didn't say that is what they only do. He said "war driving IS NOT hacking. War driving is merely the practice of pin pointing access points and noting where they are."
What they do after that is up to them.
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directv2006
@rogers.com | stealing signal?
LOL, stealing an encrypted signal would be illigal.
using an unencrypted signal is simply sharing!
(probably still not allowed by your ISP, but that is a whole other topic) |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  reply to Techman21
Re: And the media's...
said by Techman21 :perceptions are once again incorrect. This is what happens when ignorant people unfamiliar with a particular field try to explain something to the uneducated. You have to cut the news guys a little slack. Not much, but a little. Their average listener probably has about a 5th grade reading level and are dumb as rocks. If they had put together a comprehensive report that can fully explain the nuances of the problem and how much effort is involved in really making your system secure, it would have been a 1/2 hour report before the listeners would have had a chance of understanding it. And after about 30 secs, all those needing the help would have started listening to some local sports talk show.
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gefflong
join:2003-02-18
Aledo, IL
| small problem
From the Article:
"We could sit outside in the car, hook up to your network and search for child porn or things like that. When that happens, the FBI tags you. And when they come, there's no way to prove it wasn't you." No way?
-------end of article-------------------
I'm not a laywer, but wouldn't there be a little problem called lack of EVIDENCE? If there was no illegal material in the home or on the computers when they searched, how could the homeowner be charged? |
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Chuckles
Premium
join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN | No way?
No way to prove it wasn't me? Uhm... try proving it WAS me! |
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Tek465m
@frontiernet.net
| Uneducated Media trolling again
"We could sit outside in the car, hook up to your network and search for child porn or things like that. When that happens, the FBI tags you. And when they come, there's no way to prove it wasn't you."
I have a similar problem.
We have illegals crossing our border. Many times they are passing through ranches and private property to get across. I would like to see Law Enforcement arrest the property owners for allowing them to come into our country.
The logic dictates if you don't secure your property you should be held liable. 
Why is this so difficult? Companies release technology, en masse, that most people don't understand, and we act surprised that the few that do understand it, exploit the holes in the system. Just pick *any* technology. (Doesn't even have to be this century!)
It's always going to be a game of cat and mouse!! |
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tim_k
Buttons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, Kasey
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join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
·Millenicom
 ·WildBlue
| reply to Chuckles
Re: No way?
said by Chuckles :No way to prove it wasn't me? Uhm... try proving it WAS me! Would you really want to go through all that trouble? The Feds would take all your computers away and your name will appear in newspapers. You'll still need a lawyer; who needs all that grief? |
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melps
join:2002-01-05
Paramus, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to kdepasquale
Wardriving vs Free Area Wide Wi-Fi
Is there a difference in terms of personal PC security?
Someone connects to your network via wardriving
vs.
both u and the "wardriver" are on the same free area-wide wi-fi network.
You still have to protect yourself no matter how both got on
to the same network. |
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Chuckles
Premium
join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN
| reply to tim_k
Re: No way?
What trouble? What they're looking for wouldn't be on my computer. ...this is all in theory though because I don't use a wireless router...
Or I could say not only do I leave my wireless access unsecure I leave my front door unlocked too!
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Rickez
Goinginsane
join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA | reply to Alpine
Re: The real question...
I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?!?!?!?!?! |
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Chuckles
Premium
join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN | reply to Tek465m
Re: Uneducated Media trolling again
Fire was totally exploited. |
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
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join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
| reply to kdepasquale
Re: "fixing it?"
I noticed that too. They don't even say about any encryption. Kismet would pick up there signal in a heart beat.
Data Doctors need to go back and read the manual.... LOL!!!
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