rudnicke
Premium
join:2004-10-23
Rantoul, IL | Ed Whitacre
Ed Whitacre needs to be shot.
This man has to be, hands down, the greediest, most idiotic person on this planet. |
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SD6
join:2005-03-26 | oops
"AT&T has also passed laws banning communities from serving themselves."
I think this needs a quick edit. Only the government can pass laws. |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
 ·Armstrong Zoom In..
 ·AT&T Midwest
1 edit | Faking most deffinitly.
Areas around here still can't get DSL, simply because they're too cheap to upgrade the RTs and put new ones where needed. Concern for rural deployment my ass. This area isn't even considered entirely rural, so I can't imagine what it's like in a rural community. Project Lightspeed requires RTs to be deployed and lit, yet this area isn't even on the list for a RT. I'm lucky enough to be on the edge of the DSL feed from the CO and since I can't get cable modem as of yet (it's coming soon I hear) I'm on the very lowest sync rate of DSL. You're not going to successfully market broadband with satellite even with their conjunction with Wild Blue. Satellite is simply too expensive for the average Joe, especially when they constantly see advertisements for DSL on TV for $12.99 a month! Although they can't get it, they don't see why they would need to pay that much for satellite.
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | reply to SD6
Re: oops
Right, which is why that excerpt is telling of the situation. |
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SEL9710
@comcast.net
| Thats why they need local franchise agreements
Telco's will not bring fiber to the "farm" because it is not cost effective for them. They base it on homes per mile, but most cable co's have to serve the entire community because it is in the local franchise agreement along with local studio funding ect... |
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Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK | Hell no!
This is exactly why I refuse to allow AT&T to activate my DMARC with POTS service. This is a horrible business model. |
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Odie97
join:2006-04-19
Oak Creek, WI
| reply to rudnicke
Re: Ed Whitacre
Being shot would be too kind ... this man exemplifies what is wrong with the RBOC business community (in my opinion)  I say tar, feather and then send him on a walk across the desert to contemplate the damage he has single handily caused to the US society and our ability to be competitive in a global world. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
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Re: Thats why they need local franchise agreements
said by SEL9710 :
but most cable co's have to serve the entire community because it is in the local franchise agreement along with local studio funding ect... Which is also the reason why you still cannot get cable TV in many rural areas.
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | Fixed wireless is not for rural broadband
I think AT&T does not realize how hard fixed wireless is, esp in Missouri. So many trees, hills its not for rural areas.
Roll the fiber or shut up AT&T. Lobby the government for money to do it if you have to. |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| Can someone help me out here?
And tell me, at what point in time did it become a requirement for a company such as AT&T is to have to be forced into delivering goods and/or services into areas which would most likely prove to be an unprofitable business venture for them?
What a HORRIBLE expectation to expect from this, or any other U.S. Company.
This and other companies put their and their shareholders hard earned money into building and upgrading their systems and in fact, in this industry, that amounts to billions of dollars.
This company is not here to service those people who CHOOSE and who have decided to live in the more rural parts of America with non essential services such as broadband internet, video over IP, or VOIP.
If I were to ever decide to live in the Mountains of California or anywhere else that's rural, or even borderline rural for new technologies, I would fully expect that I'd be sacrificing a certain amount of convenience to do so.
I wouldn't expect a national food chain to then move a supermarket down the street from me..which is an EXCELLANT comparison to this issue..only to service my and a relatively few others needs.
I would expect to drive a long distance for even such basics as Gasoline for my tank and even for things such as a doctor or hospital visit.
One of the biggest and first challenges companies like AT&T have had to face is how to service even those more densely populated areas with this newer technology.
I myself lived a while back in a pretty heavily populated suburb of Columbus Ohio, in a complex with over 300 units in it..and we couldn't even get DSL...because of the distance limitations. This wasn't the phone companies fault, it was the technology involved that had us too far from the C/O. But, if you were a FOR profit business...which would you RIGHTFULLY work on first...that type of a scenario involving many potential customers or the more rural customers where you might have to lay miles of new lines to service only a few?
The executives of a for profit company have an OBLIGATION to their shareholders and to the corporation itself to choose the first one. This is not a welfare agency and in business to lose money.
Just as any FOR PROFIT corporation in America should be as well.
For whatever faults they may have, I think AT&T has demonstrated their commitment to trying to get these things rolled out as fast as they can. Witness the recent lawsuit even against the city of Geneva IL..that they filed trying apparently speed along that community as well.
On one hand, the writers here at BBR complain about AT&T's attack against franchise agreement, and on the other you complain about how slow they are.
Which is it BBR?
Which one do you want to support?
You can't have it both ways.
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AHomeBoy2000
join:2005-10-10
Roselle, IL
| RADICAL Change
I have been thinking about this for a long time and I have an idea, but it’s radical and might bet a lot of opposition, but it makes sense and takes a lot of control out of these big companies. The US Government makes a HUGE investment in running fiber to EVERY house/business in America. Then to make sure that there is fair competition, 2 companies are granted a local “bi-opoly”. Two companies lease these fiber lines for a minimal price. The reason two companies are allowed to do this is that it gives competition to keep prices down. Theoretically, it could be a “tri-opoly” if they wanted it to be. These companies can use these lines however they like. IF they want to offer only ultra-fast broadband, they can do so. If they want to offer Voice, Internet, and TV… they can do that as well. No one gets left behind and medica companies can bitch and moan saying “it costs too much to service some areas” |
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ross96
VIP
join:2000-11-02
Dayton, OH | reply to Rick
Re: Can someone help me out here?
Amen Rick! |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| At least they could be honest about things
The CEO of ATT at a recent board meeting. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to rudnicke
Re: Ed Whitacre
said by rudnicke  :Ed Whitacre needs to be shot. This man has to be, hands down, the greediest, most idiotic person on this planet. hey hey hey! be careful what you say - Ed has some significant competition out there for greediest, stupidest person on the planet. I don't think Ed's a slam dunk. |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH | reply to Transmaster
Re: At least they could be honest about things
LOL  . |
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anonposter
@optonline.net | welcome
You are in the USC. Not the USA
United Sates of Corruption. |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY | interesting
note the absence of the corporate cable shills that always post here. not much to say now hey ? |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Good old Sleezy P Martini of Gwar. A great stage show, so-so music, but it does beat the hell out of gangsta rap. |
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garagerock
Premium
join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY
| reply to Rick
Re: Can someone help me out here?
Not a hundred years ago they said the same thing about city water, electricity service, sewer service...you get my point. At what point did anyone "force" rural areas of the country to be electrified?
Eventually, HSI will be considered a utility (like it should be) and not the playthings of the urban populations of this country. Automobiles weren't plentiful in the rural areas of this country until Ford came along-where's broadband's Henry Ford? |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace | reply to rudnicke
Re: Ed Whitacre
quote:
This man has to be, hands down, the greediest, most idiotic person on this planet.
Obviously you haven't met many attorneys then. |
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