alphapointe
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join:2002-02-10
Columbia, MO
clubs: | Bought
It's really easy to see that (probably the same) 33/34 politicians are really in the telco's pockets.
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phantom6294
join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD | Sigh...
Sigh...
there really isn't much more I can say... |
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Dominokat
"Hi"
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join:2002-08-06
Boothbay, ME
clubs: | Sooo.....
So what do we pay the "Universal Service Fund" tax for?
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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|  A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action
Looks like almost everybody got something in today's committee action to rewrite the telcomm act of 1996.
The Muni-wifi crowd get to erase laws in 14 states that prevents cities from providing internet access with public money. But bad news for taxpayers in some of those cities that might get a go ahead to stick them for overpriced systems. Luckily, most cities have dropped the idea of taxpayer funded muni systems and have switched to ad-supported or for-pay systems.
The telcos and cable companies get a reprieve from draconian net neutrality laws that try to make them the b`tches of the content providers.
And the ISPs get to roll out their products without giving cities the power to tell them who they have to provide service to. ISPs can now schedule rollouts so that the areas most likely to generate profits come first.
The only losers, apparently, are the content providers. They didn't get anything they want. They better start figuring out how to charge for their product, because they won't be able to make the ISPs carry a majority of the costs if this law passes.
Of course, this is only the beginning of the game. The whole House of Representatives have to pass it. And then the Senate must pass their version. And then a compromise bill must be agreed to in House/Senate negotiations. And then the compromise must be passed by both Houses of Congress. With all that, we may not get any bill this year. And then it would start all over again in 2007 with a whole new Congress.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Dominokat
Re: Sooo.....
Yeah, I guess there's no need for a 'Universal Service Fund' if buildout isn't going to be regulated anymore. |
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cob_
1310nm Of Goodness
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join:2003-07-08
Tulsa, OK
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Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action
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The only losers, apparently, are the content providers. They didn't get anything they want. They better start figuring out how to charge for their product, because they won't be able to make the ISPs carry a majority of the costs if this law passes.
And just how do ISPs bear the costs of content providers providing content? They're apparently trying to make themselves obsolete - without content, there is no reason to access the Internet, and I bet you can figure out what people will do with their DSL and cable Internet access if there's nothing they need it for. |
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
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Remarkable. Simply remarkable.
You really *are* an astroturfer, aren't you?
Oh, the only losers are the vast majority of the citizens, who already pay a lot of money for their Internet access.
But it seems that those people, the real funders of the Internet, are the lowest common denominator to you. |
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truedalife
join:2003-01-10
Brooklyn, MD
| Sad day for the poor
Sad day for the poor hard working families. I live in one of these areas in Baltimore, MD. and we'll never see Fios deployment here possibly until the very end of the rebuild.
You know everybody is commenting lately on the abolishment of franchise agreements, but this is the very reason why a franchise agreement is needed. So that no one is left disenfranchised. I should have access to the same communication type services that any other resident in my State has access to.
Again the haves keep getting, while the have not keep getting the shaft. Just my poor 2 cent here! |
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BPLSUCKS
@comcast.net
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Better get packing...I'm moving to japan or england...they know how to do broadband (cept for the caps in england). We need a "geek" president or at least one with the intelligence to know what the terms:broadband,monopoly,dsl,cable,modem,dial-up,and MA BELL mean. Soon we are going to be back to square one with the break-ups with comcast buying cable co's left and right and with AT&T going for merges with bellsouth and possible talks with verizon we may just see a day where everything is owned by one company and we are screwed because instead of a regulated monopoly we have an unregulated monopoly that can do what it pleases and charge what it pleaeses. But the day that corps or ISP's charge for content I disconnect my HSI and go back to dial up. |
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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Re: Sad day for the poor
said by truedalife  :I should have access to the same communication type services that any other resident in my State has access to. If the company can make a profit and if you can pay for it. Otherwise, get a job, save some money, and move to a better area if you want the BEST broadband service.
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quetwo
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join:2004-09-04
East Lansing, MI
| said by TKJunkMail :said by truedalife :I should have access to the same communication type services that any other resident in my State has access to. If the company can make a profit and if you can pay for it. Otherwise, get a job, save some money, and move to a better area if you want the BEST broadband service. What if I live in a poorer area (lets say, one of the people trying to revitalize an area, or moving into a trendy old building/loft)? I am able and willing to spend the money to get broadband. How about the middle-class whom often get ignored by mandatory build outs of poor communities, and ignored by the red-liners? |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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said by TKJunkMail :said by truedalife :I should have access to the same communication type services that any other resident in my State has access to. If the company can make a profit and if you can pay for it. Otherwise, get a job, save some money, and move to a better area if you want the BEST broadband service. So are you also upset with the fact that a muni project can be built and a telco or cable company can't say no?
Nearly every muni project is being stopped because of the competition argument yet if a company won't wire an area, that area should be able to get wired up by any way they want INCLUDING a muni. If no cable company or telco is servicing the area, how can a muni be competition? |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by moonpuppy :So are you also upset with the fact that a muni project can be built and a telco or cable company can't say no? Not if the taxpayers aren't paying for it. I have no problem with the ad-supported and for-pay citywide WiFi models.
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Kearnstd
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action
Google costs the ISPs nothing, Youtube costs the ISPs nothing, XM Internet stream costs the ISPs nothing.
why? because not only do these content providers have to pay for their pipe but the person getting the content is overpaying for their pipe. basicly the costs are covered, and the communications industry cant say otherwise because they are making tons of money in the profit department(i mean their VPs make close to a million or more a year)
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Odie97
join:2006-04-19
Oak Creek, WI | reply to BPLSUCKS
The World is Flat and America Just Went Below Flat
A once an powerful nation just fell even further behind ... while today we are living in a flat world ... the USA just went "flat-line"
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Odie97
join:2006-04-19
Oak Creek, WI | reply to en102
Re: Sooo.....
GOOD POINT ... I be the Universal Service Fund will be next to go ! |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| It's good that this died.
You can't force a company to ignore simple economics in deployment of a newer and more expensive product. A company needs to make money. It is perfectly logical and should definitely be acceptable to service areas that will make them more money first. And that definitely is not affluent neighborhoods. The middle class can surprisingly afford 40 a month just like the extremely rich. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Fine, however, no company has the right to tell anyone else that they can't deploy into an area that is not being serviced by anyone. Just because you MIGHT service that area, doesn't give any company the right to shut anyone else out. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
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Once again the posters of this board forget that these companies are BUSINESSES and have to stretegically deploy their services SENSIBLY. They have people to pay, materials and equipment to pay for and have resposibility to their shareholders ! As they continue to expand the fiber networks, they will and MUST start with the most profitable areas first !!!
For the Love of god, PLEASE dont ever start your own businesses people. Its harder to declare bankrupcy these days. |
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Techman21
join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA | reply to Kearnstd
Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action
Why does that sound eerily familiar? Oh yeah that gas thing going on... |
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