  tsu9
join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | Nothing to see here, move along.
Ah, deception; how sweet you are.
(who needs competition anyhow?) |
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 MrRuckus
join:2004-01-30 Portland, OR | VoIP
Why did I switch to VoIP again? Now I remember... Keep up the good work AT&T. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | VoIP has recently been adding these fees as well. |
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  Toymaster Premium join:2001-12-27 Flint, MI clubs: | reply to MrRuckus Looks like I will have to look in got VOIP and see, but what if your internet access is through the Telcos? -- Join SETI Now! |
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  ronpin Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06 Nirvana
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| reply to MrRuckus Ok this is a "metro" number -- that magically rises from a ~$49 base rate -- to $72. Amazing (too bad my wife is afraid of change -- otherwise I'd dump 'em. -- "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country" - and stop the NeoCons |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
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Look at the recent "fees" and installation charges on a Bellsouth line. They have links to describe the fees, but half of them don't even work.

"Dual Party Relay", "FCC Authorized Charge for Network Access", "Line Connection Charge", WTF? -- I have tried to see things from your point of view, but no matter how hard I try, or what I do, I just can't get my head that far up my ass. |
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 chemaupr
join:2005-06-06 Alexandria, VA
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Our cost for local connections is approx $4 dollars. Since we want your flat rate as pure profit we are billing you for our cost separately.
Next, we will start billing you for our customer service. We will call it ... Customer Service recovery fee. |
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  rudnicke Premium join:2004-10-23 Rantoul, IL | Why don't they just call this as it really is...
a lobbyist (sp?) fee.
They are just passing along the buck from the massive amounts of money their lobbyists spend on a monthly basis.
I'm glad I don't have SBC (AT&T), and I feel sorry for those that do. |
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  N3OGH Bear patrol must be working like a charm Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs | reply to tsu9 Re: Nothing to see here, move along.
Not a fan of either, but at least last time Comcast gave me the shiv, they put a little flier in my bill and called it what it was, a rate hike. |
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  93254336 Weapons Of Masturbation Premium join:2001-10-20
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To its credit, AT&T is being forthright about its new charge. "This fee will help AT&T recover increased connectivity costs associated with providing local service," a notice to customers states. "This fee is not a tax or charge required by the government." IMO, every surcharge on phone bills should be identified with the government statute than authorizes the collection of the fee, or the above disclaimer.
The new fee is being charged to 1.6 million subscribers who live outside the 13 states where AT&T owns most of the local phone network. Because it can't use its own phone lines to serve these customers, AT&T has to pay a monthly fee to other companies such as Verizon to use their local networks. Likewise, rivals such as MCI, now a unit of Verizon, pay a monthly fee to AT&T so they can sell local service in AT&T's 13-state region The solution in that case is simple: don't subscribe to telephone service where the "carrier" really isn't the carrier.
- Dan -- "That which does not kill us makes us stranger." |
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  dcurrey Premium join:2004-06-29 | reply to chemaupr Re: in other words...
Next fee is the Power Recovery Fee. This fee is used to recover the cost of providing power to the POTS line. Rates will very from month to month.
Surprised they haven't added it already. |
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  JoeyDee Premium join:2004-07-23 Las Vegas, NV
·Cox HSI
·Comcast
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*Skype* is the answer....
With SkypeOut/SkypeIN and efax I have absolutely no use for AT&T. (I work from my home.)
I didn't cancel, didn't have a handset connected either for about 4 months. (I mean, you gotta have a landline,right?? No, Joe, you don't. ) Didn't have the need for the local telco once. bye, bye, SBC
Oh, my cell phone is my primary contact for customers. They're using my SkypeIn number more and more since I forward to the cell when I'm on the road.
Joe |
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 moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21 Glen Burnie, MD | Looks like Google won't have to pay the network upgrade fee
Looks like we are going to be paying for it anyway.  |
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 Jamuka
join:2005-06-06
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Federal Universal service charge ==> Spanish American War Tax of 1898!
Also, somewhere hidden among those fees and taxes (not split apart even) is the E-rate tax ==> Al Gore's great idea to wire all the schools in the country, which everyone knows has been corrupted to the point that millions of dollars of equipment is just sitting in warehouses. Real nice.
The sad thing is that every time they add a fee/tax they never, ever seem to go away even if its supposed to be temporary as noted above regarding the Spanish American War. Its 2006, hmmmmm, 108 year old tax!
Anyone else have any specifics about others? |
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  cableties Premium join:2005-01-27
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to 93254336 Yeah. This kills me. I have a company that has to surcharge my clients for the calls I return to them so I can have their business! So AT&T wants to have customers outside its range of competition, but then hits its customers there with an extra charge to use them. Bendover. |
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  Brianv5 Low Level Functionary Premium join:2001-01-20 Keyser, WV | reply to Karl Bode Re: VoIP
Packet8 is a straight shooter. $20 for service. No hidden fees and no problem with the service. -- More power never hurt anything. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | I believe Packet8 added a "regulatory recovery fee" last spring, did they not? |
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  TScheisskopf World News Trust
join:2005-02-13 Belvidere, NJ
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| reply to ronpin Same sort of thing here, although we get charged .75 for touchtone.
Whadda racket. No wonder the mafia has largely dissapeared: the smart ones went to work for the incumbents.
Oh, and that $4.00 "fee"? Sounds like some executive's baby needs a new pair of shoes. If I was an AT&T customer, I would make some noise to regulatory officials. |
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  dcurrey Premium join:2004-06-29 | reply to Jamuka Re: Disclosure
Federal Universal service charge ==> Spanish American War Tax of 1898!
Isn't the Federal Excise Tax the Spanish American War Tax? |
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  OpenMike
@208.17.x.x | Comcast
At least Comcast lets you know they want more money straight up. |
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