OreoleO
Wanna Settle This Outside??
join:2004-05-22
Feasterville Trevose, PA | got it
Ok, so the copy protection pisses you off so badly you take a sledge hammer and break your cd/dvd.
lol |
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joshpo
join:2002-09-24
Philadelphia, PA | How about this?
Here's another idea. All companies pedaling in "DRM" take a long walk off a short peer, and maybe I'll consider trusting the content industry again someday. |
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
 ·Comcast
| No Thanks!
quote:
if our software breaks your CD/DVD drive, you get $1,000
Breaking the CD/DVD drive was never the issue with these copy protection/DRM/Rootkit software packages.
The issue was messing up your Windows installation and installing malicious software/backdoors into your system.
Starforce can keep their $1000. I'll continue to use Linux and do as I please with the CDs I purchase and download.
I'll never install Starforce! |
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gatzdon
join:2002-10-25
Lake Zurich, IL
| 64bit system?
Anyone try their software on a 64bit system yet? That would be the best possibility of finding an error in their drivers.
Also, how could they reasonably expect you to only have one DRM scheme on your computer. Install theirs, install anothers, then uninstall their software and see if it still leaves the CD-ROM drive operable?
Just some suggestions to get started.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Protect this!
StarForce Removal Tool:
»www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55
BTW, I have a "couple" of "protected" games that were copied rather easily! Fools!
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
2 edits | What constitutes breaking your PC??
Worthless offer that I am sure when examined with a fine tooth comb will have so many legal loopholes as to be totally worthless. And if they won't pay?? Then what? Go to court and sue and spend years trying to get $1000. The only thing that will get them will be someone like AG Spitzer from NY who will take them to court the 1st time they don't pay someone.
P.S.>
If you can be the first to reproduce this situation in our office, we will be happy to award you with $1000.00 US, cover your trip to Moscow and pay 2 days’ lodging. So lets see:
The money only goes to 1st person to prove it. No one else after that.
You have to go to Moscow to prove it in their office.
If you prove it(fat chance), they will pay for your trip.
Now tell me again why this is listed as a legitimate offer.
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HiVolt
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join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| One way trip
quote:
If you can be the first to reproduce this situation in our office, we will be happy to award you with $1000.00 US, cover your trip to Moscow and pay 2 days’ lodging.
Tchaaaa, you know what? Uh-uh! You'll fly to Moscow, and then be found floating in the river.
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red230
join:2003-11-07
Monterey, CA
clubs:
| They'll never have to pay
They are claiming that their software does not physically break the drive. This has nothing to do with hosing the OS. This boils down to nothing more than a PR move meant to fool people into thinking that their software is harmless. The problem is that the Starforce software can really screw up an OS. They have failed to address the real issue here. |
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jonez
Got Anime?
Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Good Old Starforce
I've heard so many problems that starforce causes, from BSODs and crashing people's computers to not allowing people who buy a legitimate copy of a game to play it. Many people think it's a joke.
The release groups do have trouble with it since starfore protects more files than just the .exe, so a simple mini-image or cd crack won't work anymore.
Take codename: panzers II for instance, which has the latest starforce protection. AFAIK, no group has come up with a way to bypass it so far, except for trying to use sf nightmare and hiding your drives or unplugging your optical drives, but that still seems to fail many. A release group finally just released an italian copy of the game that didn't have the starforce protection.
However, if man created it, man will break it...it'll just take more time.
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
Premium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| They make it sound as if it were a game.
WTF? What do you mean a contest:?
"Here are the terms of the contest:
* All the drives in the system should be properly functioning prior to the installation of a StarForce protected product.
* After the installation and start-up of StarForce protected product the problem with (CD/DVD read-write malfunction) must exist and be reproduced in any other configuration." |
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DVOOR8
join:2001-12-24
USA | reply to jonez
If it breaks your CD drive? What the heck is that? |
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JPuppy
Java Heathen
Premium
join:2002-11-24
Honesdale, PA
clubs:
| I'll Give you a BILLION DOLLARS...
...if using Starforce causes your computer to go into wretched convulsions, spit out blood, and starts yelling out 'Fred' when in reality your name is Tom.
Any takers? Oh, and you have to prove it by recording it on 8mm film, and then over night it (FedEx First Overnight only), to my hidden location in Reykjavik. You must guess the address as well.
In all, I think most people have a better chance of getting a billion dollars from me than a thousand from Starforce.
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to hopeflicker
Re: Good Old Starforce
said by hopeflicker  : * All the drives in the system should be properly functioning prior to the installation of a StarForce protected product. * After the installation and start-up of StarForce protected product the problem with (CD/DVD read-write malfunction) must exist and be reproduced in any other configuration." And here you have your loophole. You can't prove that your drive was working correctly before installing the program easily. Even if you could and it breaks the drive, you can not repeat it because the first condition is now false. It no longer is reproducable and therefor not elegible.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
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PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
1 edit | Oh yes...
This guy's going to Moscow! |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Why punish paying customers?
Why would any company guarantee they won't damage a customer's computer physically? It first of suggests that it could actually happen. Second, it just punishes your paying customers. If you buy it from us you get a bunch of drm, crappy spyware, possibly a broken cd drive, etc. If you download it for free, you just get the product, without any of the horrible extras.
You can do things to try to validate the disc when the game runs, but you shouldn't be installing drivers or checking to see if you have a program like daemon tools installed. My friend bought a game that wouldn't run without uninstalling daemon tools, it was ridiculous. Where does a game company get off telling the end user what programs they are allowed to have on their own computer. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | reply to KeepOnRockin
Re: No Thanks!
IIRC, one of the complaints with Starforce (other than
the stealth installs) was that it interfered with USB
devices, sometimes even causing data loss. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to insomniac84
Re: Why punish paying customers?
said by insomniac84 :Why would any company guarantee they won't damage a customer's computer physically? It first of suggests that it could actually happen. Second, it just punishes your paying customers. If you buy it from us you get a bunch of drm, crappy spyware, possibly a broken cd drive, etc. If you download it for free, you just get the product, without any of the horrible extras. This is why I never understood the rationale behind
such draconian DRM/copy protection schemes. It turns
paying customers into potential copyright infringers,
and pisses them off. Far from discouraging "piracy",
such schemes end up having the opposite effect. Treat
your customers as potential criminals right from the
get go, and they'll either turn to illegal means to
get what they want or avoid your company's products
entirely.
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donaldk
Premium
join:2000-10-19
Thunder Bay, ON | reply to OreoleO
Re: got it
easy... maybe if MS just disabled all auto run all together.. but they never will...
and I tired to disable it a couple of ways but stupid XP still runs it.... SP2 being secure at all... yet this hole they never work on. |
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
·Cox HSI
| reply to insomniac84
Re: Why punish paying customers?
said by insomniac84 :... Second, it just punishes your paying customers. If you buy it from us you get a bunch of drm, crappy spyware, possibly a broken cd drive, etc. If you download it for free, you just get the product, without any of the horrible extras. Exactly |
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kywirelessgu
Premium
join:2004-01-25
Nicholasville, KY
clubs:
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| reply to Doctor Four
Re: No Thanks!
Its still installed on my system, even after uninstalling the game that used it. I know there are removers out there, I just like to see it running in my taskmanager so I can laugh at their attempts to stop me from playing pirated games.
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