Cyberguru
join:2005-06-09
Phoenix, AZ | Great Idea
I think this is a great Idea! As long as we are not compromising something in return I'm completely on board. Viruses have become an all to often occurrence. |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20 | Did anyone see terminator?
To start, this sounds like a great idea...
But - did anyone see the Terminator 1, 2, or 3? Will the internet's immune system see US as the virus and launch all weapons?  |
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jmycknshk
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join:2004-07-02
West Chester, PA
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3 questions...
1. who's going to pay for this?
2. how many suckers do you think will use these and forego the standard antivirus measures?
3. what about symantec, mcaffee, etc? i'm sure they're going to get their fingers in the honeypot first... |
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TKJunkMail
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3 edits | said by jmycknshk  :3 questions... 1. who's going to pay for this? 2. how many suckers do you think will use these and forego the standard antivirus measures? 3. what about symantec, mcaffee, etc? i'm sure they're going to get their fingers in the honeypot first... I suspect the targeted users of a service like this would be the ISPs and the security software companies. And if it looked workable, they would pay for the service. To help the end users, the security software companies would have to change their customer update model to a "Push" model instead of the current "scheduled pull" model. The ISPs could use the service to keep their email virus scanning systems much more current.
Some ISPs already make use of a type of honeypot system for SPAM detection. Comcast uses Brightmail service(Uses honeypot model) to keep their email server SPAM scanner current. But that service still misses a lot. So while a honeypot system works it still misses a small percentage of threats.
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pnh102
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Re: Did anyone see terminator?
said by fiberguy :But - did anyone see the Terminator 1, 2, or 3? Will the internet's immune system see US as the virus and launch all weapons? Come on... there is absolutely no way we could possibly consider T3 to be canon. The whole plot of that movie was like... first 2 movies... they didn't matter at all!
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jmycknshk
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join:2004-07-02
West Chester, PA | reply to TKJunkMail
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but for it to truly be effective, we need all OS manufacturers to get onboard as well. symantec and others can only modify so much.
also, 90% of system vulnerability is human error/lack of knowledge bringing something in from the outside. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | reply to fiberguy
Re: Did anyone see terminator?
I won't take it that far but someone might figure out a way to create a virus that rapidly morphs and acts as a carcinogen. |
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Gwailo
join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX
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It won't be implemented immediately but good thinking outside the box. To keep releasing updates hourly / daily / every few days is like the kids story of plugging holes in in a dike. |
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jmycknshk
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join:2004-07-02
West Chester, PA | reply to rradina
Re: Did anyone see terminator?
basically keeping computer fully occupied and it "cooks" itself by maxxing out the proc and memory till it breaks.
i foresee a bunch of undue system stress. |
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justmesqui
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BH9 2RJ | Artifical Inteligence
This would only be possible with AI.
how would they combat a new virus if we Humans had not made a protection for it?
sounds a bit ambitious |
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yaplej
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join:2001-02-10
White City, OR
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1 edit | Not bad...
Actually I think its a pretty good idea, but it needs to be incorporated into the hardware of the routers moving traffic around, not some super high powerful system that filters all internet traffic.
If the hardware could recognize a virus in transmission and stop it viruses would have a hard time spreading once it was initially discovered and virus pattern incorporated with the system.
It would make it nearly impossible for old viruses to spread through a network that had hardware to support something like this unless the virus was modified a bit, but then it would be a whole new virus anyway.
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This is probably something they have already, or are looking at. Identifying a virus in transmission is a huge challenge, and would probably consume a lot of resources on the hardware. |
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PacketDump
join:2005-11-29 | The firewalls are holding
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Kompressor
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join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to Cyberguru
Re: Great Idea
After they combat the viruses, what will they combat next, free speech? |
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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Re: Did anyone see terminator?
said by jmycknshk :basically keeping computer fully occupied and it "cooks" itself by maxxing out the proc and memory till it breaks. i foresee a bunch of undue system stress. Heh that takes alot more than you think. Realy constant load isnt as bad for a computer as wild swings in load. For example loading your ram up to max then emptying it all out and keep doing that for a few days youll trash your ram. Takes the cpu to 100% load hold for a minute drop to zero rinse and repeat and youl kill the cpu. Easyest piece of hard ware to trash with load is the power supply cycle it to peak load then zero over and over something is gona pop real fast.
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL | reply to jmycknshk
Re: who
You forgot #4.
4. How long will it take the honeypots to be hacked and infucted? |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA | reply to Kompressor
Re: Great Idea
How do you make the leap from combating viruses to restricting speech? |
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ForeverZero
join:2005-01-11
Hollywood, FL
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Re: Artifical Inteligence
said by justmesqui :This would only be possible with AI. how would they combat a new virus if we Humans had not made a protection for it? sounds a bit ambitious Step 1) Read article
Step 2) Post response |
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dunninger
join:2000-10-12
Arlington, VA | I had heard the Microsoft is already doing this
Steve Gibson implied that Microsoft is already doing something like this:
»www.grc.com/sn/SN-002.txt |
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Kompressor
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join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to Jason Levine
Re: Great Idea
Immunization can be used for good and/or bad. If immunization is integrated into something like the internet, they will be able immunize, block or isolate things other than viruses. Who knows what the limits are. |
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Samwoo
join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | Uhm blocking data is already a very easy thing to do.
This just allows us to block executable code with certain signatures. |
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