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| Pretty Good Article
He provides a small nod to what he calls the "culture war" surrounding Sveasoft's abusive tactics and goes into some detail on the subject of firmware mods as a whole.
Not bad. (But no HyperWRT?)
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2 edits | Never tried any of these other firmeware.
But if it allows users to do what they need. I am all for it. 
Edit: I did try another firmware, my apologies, but it was to allow the PSP to connect to XLink Kai, without using the Xlink Kai engine for connectivity. |
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|  A true bargain of a product
The WRT54G has been a solid wireless product and has enabled quite a few people to learn about wireless technologies and the security and use of them.
I have modded mine with the Sveasoft VPN build to enable encrypted remote access to the home network when on travels.
All of this is made possible by the open source firmware... |
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This was a nice capabilty for the WRT54G Linksys router. But Linksys won't make this mistake again in newer products and neither will other vendors of commercial routers. So enjoy the WRT54G while you can. Open Source code won't be in any of the newer products using MIMO or 802.11n when it is finalized.
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»[Wired] WRT54G very slow downstream
I haven't done any reading on it personally yet, but others apparently have. Looks like you might want to stick with pre-V5 versions of the router if you're interested in 3rd party firmware, as Linksys abandoned the linux-based firmware.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, only because I haven't had a chance to really read up on this, though I do have a 9-month old WRT54GS sitting in the closet.
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Cheese
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Re: A true bargain of a product
said by love the plane :
The WRT54G has been a solid wireless product and has enabled quite a few people to learn about wireless technologies and the security and use of them.
I have modded mine with the Sveasoft VPN build to enable encrypted remote access to the home network when on travels.
All of this is made possible by the open source firmware...
I could have sworn I saw there was A VPN/Remote access option in the linksys firmware? Correct me if I am wrong. |
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Re: Pretty Good Article
HyperWRT itself is basically dead (it hasn't been updated in a while).
That said a number of developers have branched off the HyperWRT code. I myself prefer the Tofu build which adds static DHCP, WDS and bridge mode without adding all the bloat that is in the Sveasoft firmware. It also adds some extra statistics and fixes some bugs in the Linksys firmware.
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Re: A true bargain of a product
Yes, you are wrong. The linksys firmware has options to allow VPN PASSTHROUGH, not an actual built in VPN server. |
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Re: Pretty Good Article
Thanks, Morac  ! Does the relative bloat of Sveasoft (and I presume DD-WRT) affect the performance of the router, or does it merely reduce available RAM for logs and such?
I am heartened to hear that HyperWRT is still being extended; I do prefer to stay away from the Sveasoft codebase on ethical grounds.
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| new version 5 is a flop
this article is based on a version of the router Linsys is no longer producing..
this version is not open source...
Funny how the article lauds something linksys apparently shut down...
now a Failure story
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Re: Won't happen again
said by TKJunkMail :This was a nice capabilty for the WRT54G Linksys router. But Linksys won't make this mistake again in newer products and neither will other vendors of commercial routers. So enjoy the WRT54G while you can. Open Source code won't be in any of the newer products using MIMO or 802.11n when it is finalized. Yes...it was a mistake...that allowed them to sell tens of thousands more units than they would have sold otherwise.
Obviously they would be fools to do THAT again.
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Linksys has sold tons of WRT54G routers because of this, why would Linksys go back to a proprietary system?
Remember Linksys released all the tools needed to compile their firware. They didn't need to do this to comply with the GPL license.
They could have just only the source code that they changed which would have made impossible or at least much harder to make 3rd party firmware. They could also have charged for the source code which they didn't.
Like the article said, this was a "win-win" situation because both Linksys and the consumers benefitted. Why would Linksys risk the success of their new routers by going proprietary?
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| Wonder what Linksys thinks
I wonder how Linksys feels about how (IMHO) the GPL'd code helped sell these routers to the hobbyist? Probably when the news first hit that the router ran GPL'd code, Linksys probably regretting using GPL'd code and wasn't too thrilled about having to release their code tree. However after seeing what has evolved from the box does Linksys now feel that that using GPL'd code was a good thing?
I guess the question really needs to be posed to them.
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Re: A true bargain of a product
said by nozzer :Yes, you are wrong. The linksys firmware has options to allow VPN PASSTHROUGH, not an actual built in VPN server. Thank you, just wanted to clarify. |
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Re: Pretty Good Article
I've never tried the Sveasoft (or DD-WRT) software mainly because I don't need all those extra features. Also I have the original WRT54G v1.0 which doesn't have as much memory and processing power as the newer versions so I like to keep the installed firmware as streamlined as possible for better performance
The newer models might be better at handling the extra features, but every extra feature added requires more processing power and/or memory. Processing power and memory that might be needed during heavy usage.
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Re: new version 5 is a flop
said by macaholic :this article is based on a version of the router Linsys is no longer producing.. this version is not open source... Funny how the article lauds something linksys apparently shut down... now a Failure story But they have released the WRT54GL - specifically based on Linux for the rest of us... |
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said by Morac :Linksys has sold tons of WRT54G routers because of this, why would Linksys go back to a proprietary system? Why would Linksys risk the success of their new routers by going proprietary? How about because Linksys was bought by Cisco(who is dead set against open source code). And how about that Linksys hasn't made source code available for any of their other product lines than the WRT54 line that has the open source code in it.
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Re: new version 5 is a flop
said by grcore :said by macaholic :this article is based on a version of the router Linsys is no longer producing.. this version is not open source... Funny how the article lauds something linksys apparently shut down... now a Failure story But they have released the WRT54GL - specifically based on Linux for the rest of us... Yeah but the article is about the now totally hosed WRT54G not GL
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Re: A true bargain of a product
said by love the plane :
The WRT54G has been a solid wireless product and has enabled quite a few people to learn about wireless technologies and the security and use of them.
I have modded mine with the Sveasoft VPN build to enable encrypted remote access to the home network when on travels.
All of this is made possible by the open source firmware...
You did? When was it released? Or did you add the VPN module and build it yourself? I signed up for Sveasoft last December and have been waiting ever since for a VPN build. |
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grcore
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Re: Won't happen again
said by TKJunkMail :This was a nice capabilty for the WRT54G Linksys router. But Linksys won't make this mistake again in newer products and neither will other vendors of commercial routers. So enjoy the WRT54G while you can. Open Source code won't be in any of the newer products using MIMO or 802.11n when it is finalized. Well the WRT55GX line already uses opens source. And it could be in the best interest of other vendors to capitalize on this phenomenon.
Perhaps you could explain why this is bad?
And Linksys already has realeased the WRT54GL, which specifically targets the use of Linux. Therefore your statement is pure FUD.
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