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Comments on news posted 2005-11-08 09:23:24: Airgo and Netgear are trumpeting the release of their new wireless router, which contains Airgo's third generation MIMO chipset (all while we've waited for a real 802.11n standard to solidify, go figure). ..

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amungus
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nethear

heh, net-hear... I hear my network going faster!

..sounds cool, catching up to wired speeds!

edit: fixed that one quick!

on another note, I wonder when (if ever) they'll settle on a new wireless standard.. seems there've been so many wireless "pre-n" routers out that by the time it's a standard, everyone will just laugh. then again, I suppose some will adopt it since it'll be an actual standard.


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said by amungus See Profile :

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seems there've been so many wireless "pre-n" routers out that by the time it's a standard, everyone will just laugh.
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They should just call them all "pre-z" and be done with it.
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wilburyan

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WHO CARES?!?!!

Last time I checked most ISPs were offering speeds slowing than 802.11b

Most folks use wireless simply to share internet access between workstations... So this speed boost is really quite useless.

snrsuave

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I use my wireless network to sream movies and music to my big screen in the living room. The extra bandwidth would be very useful especially when playing DVD movies and HD content.


belushi
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said by amungus See Profile :

..sounds cool, catching up to wired speeds!
Not really, wireless is still one big collision domain where as the wired switch offers you a separate collision domain per port.


Topmounter
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reply to wilburyan
Re: WHO CARES?!?!!

You might not care, but...

The extra speed is nice for people who move files between their computers and don't want to have their Internet access performance impacted.


twizlar
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who cares?

The people that will really benefit from this are LARGE wireless networks. Where there are several hundred users on an access point at a time. This will dramatically increase the speeds available to the end user when in large WLAN environments.
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nixen
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Cool!

Now, my un-protected WAP can be abused at greater ranges and greater speeds!

-tom

Turbonuim

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and whos fault would that be, eh? secure your WAP and we wont have a problem.


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said by Turbonuim See Profile :

and whos fault would that be, eh? secure your WAP and we wont have a problem.
If they shipped them in a "default secure" configuration in the first place, Joe Clueless Home-user wouldn't be such a wireless menace in the first place.

-tom
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JakCrow

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reply to wilburyan
Re: WHO CARES?!?!!

You don't seem to understand what a LAN is and the need/want for more speed internally.

v_lestat
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said by twizlar See Profile :

The people that will really benefit from this are LARGE wireless networks. Where there are several hundred users on an access point at a time. This will dramatically increase the speeds available to the end user when in large WLAN environments.
I guarentee you 150% that there is no end user regular joe piece of hardware out there right now that will handle "several hundred users" who are all on at the same time. your not going to buy anything wireless from netgear that will handle that many people.
It nt a bandwidth limitation its a hardware limitation.
They can claim it can handle such-n-such users but i sell this stuff for a living every day (not this whimpy netgear or linksys stuff) and i guarentee you that these pieces of hardware will puke out you get that many people.

thruput starts backing down on many devies when you start getting a dozen or more users let alone a hundred or more.

these are designed for in your home with 3-4 users and thats all.

plus i'd love to see how far they actually got away from the AP to get those speeds.

and don't start in on the WiMax stuff either. It's not even been ratified yet and is still in its first stages of "stage 1" finalization. Infact today they are doing their stage 1.
And here in the USA we are fighting with the FCC to get the GHZ bands finalized and we are running into issues.
Also make note that Intel has backed out of all wimax products that are NOT licensed bands meaning anything that you can go buy and hook up- without an FCC license,, intel has said they wont make the chipsets for them. So hows that for intel strong arming yet again!
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wilburyan

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Re: Cool!

If they did that then "Joe Clueless" wouldn't be able to figure out how to get the damn thing going.

And it's not because it's hard... most of the time people just refuse to even try... like they are intimidated by it.


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said by wilburyan See Profile :

If they did that then "Joe Clueless" wouldn't be able to figure out how to get the damn thing going.

And it's not because it's hard... most of the time people just refuse to even try... like they are intimidated by it.
Sometimes, it just makes sense that there be a certain level of knowledge required in "order to play". The home gear is so dead-simple to configure that, if people are too addled to figure it out, we really shouldn't be doing anything to make it easier for them to get on the net.

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JamesPC

join:2005-10-12
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reply to snrsuave
Re: WHO CARES?!?!!

108mbit or 120...not that big of a difference...a big difference would be 11mbit to 120mbit...(120mbit is the actual speed of the new router)


JamesPC

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reply to twizlar
Re: who cares?

your right


JamesPC

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reply to nixen
simplicity

you wont sell anything with that mentality...in business its all about making the most money...for them to do that they must sell the largest amount of product they can...so when they leave the default setting the way they are now. Netgear eliminates a couple of things...one the user (buyer) is pleased because he plugged it in and it worked... user not calling customer help... and most importantly he is pleased with the simplicty of the product so he will decide to by another product.
Business 101...


JamesPC

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Re: Cool!

your the guy that playes with the snake and asks why it bit you...Common Sense


nixen
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Re: simplicity

It's like the Energizer bunny: consumers (are allowed to) get dumber and dumber and dumber...

-tom


JakCrow

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reply to JamesPC
Re: WHO CARES?!?!!

Except the wirelessness that claims 108Mbps is more like 50.
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