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Comments on news posted 2005-11-07 10:28:52: Last week the folks over at the SysInterals blog caused a stir when they discovered that new DRM being used by Sony Music used rootkits to hide itself, in turn opening the door to malicious malware. ..

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cdru
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The best part...

...is pointed out in the front page /. write up. If you rename your ripping program so that it starts with $sys$, the DRM crap can't detect it. So you essentially circumvent their DRM software by using their DRM software.
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gatzdon

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List of CD's

Anyone know where there is a list of CD's employing this crap. I would like to hit all the review sites for those discs and add a comment with a link to the blog.


WaxPhoto
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Pot meet kettle

BBR constantly lambastes press coverage of file sharing issues for framing the discussion in the context of "piracy." So whats with the "exploited by cheating gamers???" Not wanting Warden to spy on you doesn't make you a cheater!

That said, I don't know why anyone would install one kind of crapware to partially disable another...
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scrummie02
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Re: List of CD's

I do here....
* Arista Records
* BMG Classics
* BMG Heritage
* BMG International Companies
* Columbia Records
* Epic Records
* J Records
* Jive Records
* LaFace Records
* Legacy Recordings
* Provident Music Group
* RCA Records
* RCA Victor Group
* RLG - Nashville
* Sony Classical
* Sony Music International
* Sony Music Nashville
* Sony Wonder
* Sony Urban Music
* So So Def Records
* Verity Record


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reply to cdru
Re: The best part...

said by cdru See Profile :

...is pointed out in the front page /. write up. If you rename your ripping program so that it starts with $sys$, the DRM crap can't detect it. So you essentially circumvent their DRM software by using their DRM software.
That is so funny. Their own program making copying easier instead of stopping it.

And on another note the PATCH Sony provided is now causing crashes on some PC's: »www.techworld.com/security/news/···sID=4733
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cdru
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reply to WaxPhoto
Re: Pot meet kettle

said by WaxPhoto See Profile :

BBR constantly lambastes press coverage of file sharing issues for framing the discussion in the context of "piracy." So whats with the "exploited by cheating gamers???" Not wanting Warden to spy on you doesn't make you a cheater!
I don't think BBR was meaning how you took it. I think they are taking the angle that already people have taken advantage of the software's presence to further their own purposes, not that with which it was software was intended. It's kind of like one bot taking over another bot's network.

It probably was a unfair generalization that users would use this DRM flaw to hide game cheats from Warden...I bet though I could count on 1 hand the number of users that have done this to hide something from Warden and were NOT cheating.

But I do agree that not wanting Warden spying on you doesn't make you a cheater.
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Harddrive
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said by WaxPhoto See Profile :
Not wanting Warden to spy on you doesn't make you a cheater!

That said, I don't know why anyone would install one kind of crapware to partially disable another...
Exactly. Why put crap-app #2 on your computer to keep crap-app #1 from spying on you? I'm doing nothing wrong to warrant crap-app #1 to tattle on me.

It may have to be with being paranoid. 'I don't want anyone watching me, therefore I will install everything/anything to prevent it.'


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The ultimate hypocrisy

This one has really pissed me off. Here I am, trying to be an honest joe - buying CDs, buying tracks off buymusic.com, etc - and this is the thanks I get? Give me a break Sony!

Just last week I bought a new track from buymusic that won't play on anything (can't retrieve its license). Tried on 3 different computers, two different networks - nothing. And will they do anything? Nope!

And now Sony decides to hack my PC when I insert the next CD I buy from them? I've had it.
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stet
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reply to scrummie02
Re: List of CD's

Is there a list somewhere of actual CDs (not just a list of record labels) that have this on it?

I buy a lot of CDs, and have no idea of any of them that I've purchased have this.
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fegul
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Getting punished for going legit

I've already had to remove this crap off machines, and let me tell you, its a PITA. I'm just absolutely astounded that they would screw with your system for buying the product! Instead of preventing copy protection, it encourages piracy.
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I get my music from Usenet. If i like something i buy it. If i don't like something it gets deleted.

I'm using Linux so i don't get the option to use Itunes or the other Monthly Programs.

The Monopoly has a firm hold doesn't anyone understand or see this?
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gatzdon

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reply to scrummie02
Re: List of CD's

I was hoping for a list of specific CD titles so I can add a review for each and every one linking to the Blog and a small summary of the vulnaribilities it instroduces to the computer.
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Thaler
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reply to WaxPhoto
Re: Pot meet kettle

said by WaxPhoto See Profile :

BBR constantly lambastes press coverage of file sharing issues for framing the discussion in the context of "piracy." So whats with the "exploited by cheating gamers???" Not wanting Warden to spy on you doesn't make you a cheater!
So...are you going to now go and rename every .exe w/ $sys$, to prevent Warden from seeing them? How far would you like to go in that exercise?

If you have a problem with Warden...don't use the product.


WaxPhoto
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reply to cdru
Re: The best part...

Thats been retracted: »games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?c···&tid=233
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WaxPhoto
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reply to Thaler
Re: Pot meet kettle

I don't have or play WoW, just making a point.


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Re: Getting punished for going legit

said by fegul See Profile :

I've already had to remove this crap off machines, and let me tell you, its a PITA. I'm just absolutely astounded that they would screw with your system for buying the product! Instead of preventing copy protection, it encourages piracy.
One word: StarForce. It too introduced some intrusive
DRM that far from discouraging copyright infringement,
made people want to go download a warez copy of the
game that was clean.
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rachelsfx

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My 2 Cents

Personally, I think DRM has gone too far. In fact, I also believe that the DMCA is Unconstitutional on the grounds that it interferes with interstate commerce. Let one of those RIAA jerks sue me and we'll find out their sharks' tailfins aren't as big as mine. I am working on posting a "friend of the court" brief to help people these morons are suing. Email me at rachelalicehunter@gmail.com for me to send a copy to you. I'm not ready to yet, but should by the end of the week. It will also include a provisio for a defence against RIAA lawsuits as well.

Thaler
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reply to WaxPhoto
Re: Pot meet kettle

said by WaxPhoto See Profile :

I don't have or play WoW, just making a point.
Which I don't quite get. People who play WoW have agreed to Blizzard's terms, which incorporates use of Warden for anti-cheating measures. If folks are honestly that concerned over potential privacy leakage, then they shouldn't use a product.

If you don't like the terms to an agreement, don't agree to them.


Anonymous
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Sony Sucks!

If you wish to completely uninstall all of our DRM software, visit the
form below using the computer where the software is currently
installed. After submission you will be emailed a custom uninstall link within 1
business day (M-F).

»cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/form9.html

Your "Case ID" is: *******.

TIP: The uninstall request form will require an ActiveX plug-in. You may also need to temporarily turn off your pop-up blocker.

TIP: A non-ActiveX uninstall process is in development. However, until it is released, our online process is the only removal tool available.
If you prefer, or require a non-ActiveX solution, an
offline uninstaller is due to be released later this month at:
»cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html

So I guess they will offer it via simple download later this month. BTW I made a fake request and did not purchase music since 2002.


Jason Levine
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reply to cdru
Re: The best part...

Hmmm.... The DMCA forbids technology that can be used to bypass copyright protection measures. Sony's DRM software can be used to bypass copyright protection measures (Sony's DRM software). Does this mean that Sony's DRM is illegal via the DMCA?

EDIT: Looks like the "DRM used to bypass itself" has been retracted. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted to think of DRM making itself illegal under the DMCA.

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