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Comments on news posted 2005-10-31 16:57:55: Users in our Security forum point to an entry over at the Sysinternal's blog that explores a DRM (digital rights management) implementation that goes a little overboard. ..

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mishaq
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And secretly

DRM is just a front for the GOVERNMENT to install their monitoring software on our PCs.
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technick
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Absolute Crap!

That's just absolutely crazy. The folks over at Sony and First 4 Internet should be held liable for damage to pcs and potential compromise of trade secrets due to this DRM. Any program that tries to hide itself is just wrong.


FLECOM
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oooo, can i sue sony now?

can i sue sony now for hacking my pc if it does that crazy crap?

when will these people ever give up?

even if they made absolutely hack proof DRM blah blah, i can still hook the line out of a portable cd player or something to the line in on my sound card and hit record in sound recorder
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jstep73

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Re: And secretly

Must....make...more...tinfoil...hats.......

Thaler
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reply to technick
Re: Absolute Crap!

...and these people want to push "secure computing" onto us? Sorry, but when your current-day rights management could best be classified as a "virus"...why should we be letting you have hardware-level control over anything in our computer?

Thaler
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Re: oooo, can i sue sony now?

said by FLECOM See Profile :

can i sue sony now for hacking my pc if it does that crazy crap?
Nope. Hidden EULA in the CD cover. Should the CD create complications for your computer, it's your fault.


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 Never buy a Sony CD ever again; BOYCOTT SONY

Not that I buy any CD's anymore since my music CDs are all from songs recorded in the 50's and 60's. But I would never buy a CD from Sony ever again.

Aside from any lawsuits filed, BBR should do something useful and push a boycott of all SONY products until they reverse their rootkit DRM CD tactics.
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xrobertcmx
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My girlfriend picked up a Sony CD

A while back, when she asked me why it wouldn't play on her work PC I figured it was DRM. When she tried to load it on my PC I took it out and told her no way. It shouldn't specify that I need to agree to a three page document to play, and I'm not installing anything just to listen to it.
I've bought cd issued by an RIAA label (New Order on Warner Music) since 02 and I don't plan on buying anymore anytime soon. One was enough when it forced me to play it using only Windows Media Player. Sorry guys, you want my business lose the label. There is too much good music out there on indy labels for me to worry about DRM ladened CDs that install memory hogging restrictions to my usage. Besides why would I install a program on my own machine to limit my usage. I can google to find a work around if I really care.
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ross

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Re: Never buy a Sony CD ever again; BOYCOTT SONY

How would we know they were complying? Really...

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Welcome to Root Kits People

Those of you not familiar with root kit technology should read up on it. This is some VERY nasty stuff that hides itself from many scanning programs. It hides itself by literally "becoming" a part of the OS inside the kernel....It's VERY bad stuff.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit


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Re: Never buy a Sony CD ever again; BOYCOTT SONY

said by ross See Profile :

How would we know they were complying? Really...
Because if they still continue to do things like that, someone like the person in the news item above will figure it out and it will be publicised.
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JoeSchmoe007

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Why is this a problem?

Just disable Autorun on your system - problem solved. You should do this immediately after you install OS anyway.


vliktor

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Re: And secretly

Except that they're made of aluminum...

Sgtslaughtr

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reply to FLECOM
Re: oooo, can i sue sony now?

I wonder if some 12 year old from scandinavia made a virus that told you in a lengthy EULA that this program would erase all your .mp3's or .jpg's and corrupt your boot record, would that also be your fault for not reading the EULA?


DiscardedVet
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Rootkit Revealer

Ditto with Mantis_1 about rootkits being nasty little buggers. Sysinternals offers a Rootkit revealer, available here ........

»www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/R···ler.html

Download [bottom of above page]:

»www.sysinternals.com/Files/Rootk···aler.zip

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Oleg
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Re: When DRM Goes Bad

People still will find way to un protect CD protection it's just not gonna work no meeter how hard they try

Thaler
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Re: oooo, can i sue sony now?

said by Sgtslaughtr See Profile :

I wonder if some 12 year old from scandinavia made a virus that told you in a lengthy EULA that this program would erase all your .mp3's or .jpg's and corrupt your boot record, would that also be your fault for not reading the EULA?
Probably. After all, that is ad/spy/malware's primary legal defense...and it seems to be working.


KeepOnRockin
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That Ain't Good

It would seem that the RIAA would never want their "DRM" associated with any type of PC backdoor, virus, malware, or rootkit.

It's just another PR nightmare to a technology that people aren't exactly embracing now.


peter_m
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Re: When DRM Goes Bad

Doesn't that move from SONY justify downloading MP3 over spending money for a booby-trapped CD???


anonpronman

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This Explains Everything

OMG explains why I'm having all the problems with my computer.. I followed the step mentioned by mark over at sysinternals and indeed Sony has Rooted my Machine.

I'm having Frequent crashes after the purchase and install of that cd... When i call Sony for support on my dell they talk to me like i'm an idiot..

Where can i turn?
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