Rob A
Same Old Jets
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Pompton Plains, NJ | It'll never work
No one on cable with be able to hold 20Mbps/2Mbps consistently and will be capped very easily. And not to mention, when this things goes final, Verizon will just flip a switch and upgrade their speeds with no hassle. |
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Derch
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Tulsa, OK | I agree, nothing can beat FIOS. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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Once speed reaches a certain level, higher speeds mean nothing except to hard core teenage video porn downloaders. At some point, the price becomes more important than continual speed upgrades. And for 95% of the internet customers those numbers have already been reached.
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA
·Cox HSI
| Just keeping up?
with almost the whole country covered so far by neither high speed service, they need to take this opportunity to, yes try to keep up with verizon, but also to surge past them where they can. Competing in the same markets always does make alot of sense. BUT with most of the country up for grabs, I think whoever expands in area the quickest will have the boost they need over the other.
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davidcb13
join:2004-02-06
Branchville, NJ
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Re: It'll never work
said by Rob A  :No one on cable with be able to hold 20Mbps/2Mbps consistently and will be capped very easily. And not to mention, when this things goes final, Verizon will just flip a switch and upgrade their speeds with no hassle. Theres no reason cable cant support 20/2 The technolgey should be able to handle these speeds |
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Time
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said by Rob A :No one on cable with be able to hold 20Mbps/2Mbps consistently and will be capped very easily. And not to mention, when this things goes final, Verizon will just flip a switch and upgrade their speeds with no hassle. Just because FiOS is fiber, doesn't mean there is an unlimited amount of bandwidth. Verizon can't just "flip a switch" without gaining more bandwidth from their end, it's common sense. FiOS is still a shared source, just like cable.
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
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| reply to Rob A
As a former Optimum Online customer, they can advertise whatever they want. Unless you're on your own damned node and the weather is nice, and your signals are just right (according to the maintenance guy that shows up at your house, but not to Tech Support on the phone who sent the maintenance guy there to begin with), I can't imagine that a 20mb package deployed in Fios areas will help matters.
I've been so happy with my Fios since May; no caps, no downtime, max speed all the time.
All this testing and annoucements and trademarks (BOOST) for 20mbit which most people won't even see? What Verizon counter this relatively quickly.
As for Oyster Bay, the best thing Verizon can do besides watch a failed attempt to get 50mbit service there by CV is to get my damn cell to work there.  |
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click_310
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join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA
1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail : teenage video porn downloaders. Please stop using stereotypes! I download porn all the time and am not a teenager.
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join:2001-06-23
Puyallup, WA
| said by click_310 :said by TKJunkMail : teenage video porn downloaders. Please stop using stereotypes! I download porn all the time and am not a teenager. *LOL* Thanks for the laugh Click you made my day! 
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Steely
Dumped Comcast for FiOS
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join:2000-10-15
Princeton Junction, NJ
| reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :At some point, the price becomes more important than continual speed upgrades. And for 95% of the internet customers those numbers have already been reached. I agree. Most people with cable or DSL already pay more than they want to and are basically satisfied with their speeds. |
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ATHF
join:2004-12-20
00000 | OOL BOOST
i don't know maybe 20Mbps (BOOST) means
10Mbps with burst of 20Mbps |
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NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY | »www.boost.com |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| reply to Time
Re: It'll never work
said by Time :said by Rob A :No one on cable with be able to hold 20Mbps/2Mbps consistently and will be capped very easily. And not to mention, when this things goes final, Verizon will just flip a switch and upgrade their speeds with no hassle. Just because FiOS is fiber, doesn't mean there is an unlimited amount of bandwidth. Verizon can't just "flip a switch" without gaining more bandwidth from their end, it's common sense. FiOS is still a shared source, just like cable. Here's a little note for ya. THE WHOLE INTERNET IS SHARED. You are as slow as your weakest point and right now cables is much lower then Fibers.
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davidcb13
join:2004-02-06
Branchville, NJ
| said by BosstonesOwn :said by Time :said by Rob A :No one on cable with be able to hold 20Mbps/2Mbps consistently and will be capped very easily. And not to mention, when this things goes final, Verizon will just flip a switch and upgrade their speeds with no hassle. Just because FiOS is fiber, doesn't mean there is an unlimited amount of bandwidth. Verizon can't just "flip a switch" without gaining more bandwidth from their end, it's common sense. FiOS is still a shared source, just like cable. Here's a little note for ya. THE WHOLE INTERNET IS SHARED. You are as slow as your weakest point and right now cables is much lower then Fibers. 20 mbps is the same 20mbps over cable or over fiber. The medium makes no difference. Fiber maybe able to acheive higher speeds but at this point it dosent matter |
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Dr Demento
I Vant Blud
join:2002-01-02
Denville, NJ
1 edit | reply to Jeffrey
And as a former OOL user myself, since I am in PA now I can tell you that I usually got 9/900 out of my 10/1 connection with virtually no downtime. And for people that are having problems on OOL are either on a really crowded node, which is seems apparent since you're in Long Island, you were truly downloading to much or just one of those victims of circumstance.
P.S: A crowded Node or server can happen on any ISP or connection medium. It could even happen on Fios if Verizon ever mismanages it.;)
And to anyone who said cable is the weaker link, yours is still weaker than the guy appointed to manage an OC-48, do you feel comfy now? |
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r81984
Fair and Balanced
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join:2001-11-14
St John'S, NL
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| Should not be allowed
If a national company offers a tier of service in one area it should have to offer it everywhere. Just because fios is not in their other markets is no excuse, there really needs to be a law made to make national companies have fair universal prices and services. |
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Wh19L45H
join:2002-12-01
Riverview, FL | reply to NY Tel
Re: OOL BOOST
lol boost it keeps you regular
wrong url »www.boostbenefiber.com/
looked for the info on ool boost but no find |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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Re: Should not be allowed
said by r81984 :If a national company offers a tier of service in one area it should have to offer it everywhere. And why is that? The costs are different in different regions of the country. Employees make more in NYC and LA than in Podunk,Iowa. Other costs are higher on the coasts than in the central states. Why should a company be required to have one price everywhere? That is a communist philosophy where the government sets prices and terms of business. Also prices are set based on demand for the services. If demand is very high why should prices be cut? And if a company is trying to grow the business in a new area, why can't they cut prices?
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SirXILE
The SolWar 2-1
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join:2001-02-24
Brooklyn, NY
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Re: It'll never work
said by click_310 :said by TKJunkMail : teenage video porn downloaders. Please stop using stereotypes! I download porn all the time and am not a teenager. Agreed. Even though I have girlfriends. I still download and look at them.
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SirXILE
The SolWar 2-1
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join:2001-02-24
Brooklyn, NY
·Optimum Online
| Still OOL...
Well the way things look for me. I will still be with OOL and might even upgrade to the 20mbps when it shows up. I get no downtimes. Seemingly I do not have heavy users in my node or in my neighborhood. So I get high speeds all the time. I'm a heavy online gamer and I download a lot.
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