jbs123
join:2004-08-15
Burke, VA
| Anonymity?
No such thing. Come on. Even those real good virus creaters who work from another country and try their best, still are caught and can be traced. IF you don't want to be caught then don't do it. I download crap all the time that maybe I shouldn't, however, I know that I could be caught if someone tried real hard. |
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FAQFixer
Premium
join:2004-06-28
Powder Springs, GA
| Whatever
What a crock. The EFF knew EXACTLY what the tool was eventually going to be used for. They stated it was for, "whistle-blowers, political dissidents, researchers, and others concerned about exchanging information without authoritarian backlash" so they would not be liable like the Grokster case. |
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:  
| FUD
We would direct Desperate Housewives traders worried about lawsuits to other dedicated p2p privacy apps like Peer Guardian or SafePeer, but as our users have consistently pointed out, they don't really work. if those tin-foil-hat solutions dont' work, why do you even bother mentioning them?
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
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Re: Whatever
yes, EFF knew EXACTLY what the tool was designed to be used for.
RETARDS that use TOR for p2p are...retards
don't blame inventors of good ideas for idiots around the world.
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
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Not true. You do know the EFF is a legit digital rights outfit, yes? P2P is clearly stated as a violation of the service.
The primary concept was to create a distribution method for researchers concerned about backlash to publish findings, not to create a distribution channel for the Metallica discography.... |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
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Re: FUD
Likely because they're the first ones brought up as a legit solution every time someone mentions p2p anonymity?
Let people try them. False sense of security is about all they're good for. As if BayTSP and other pirate hunters can't grab a stack of IP addresses these groups miss.... |
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sirsloop
Premium
join:2004-02-18
New York, NY | reply to jbs123
Re: Anonymity?
Anyone looking to release something without getting caught is probably armed with a laptop, a car, and a directional antenna. |
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs: | reply to Minister
Re: FUD
yep, and what's to stop them from keeping at least a step or 5 ahead of some "list" of ip's that "could" be tracking...
somebody was bound to think of trying this "network" for even shadier purposes than its original intent. |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
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Re: Anonymity?
How many virus creators have been found? compared to the number of viruses being written and or distributed. The people being caught are being caught because they are doing something stuff, like bragging.
If you want to release a virus you do it someone you have never been and will never be again.
Tor is Great for anonomous browseing, read the docs on the tor site i think you will be impressed. Tor was never designed as a vehicle for p2p traffic. I think the people that are using Tor for p2p are (inserct subjective comments here).
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TappyTipTop
@66.220.x.x | Try the iPhantom
Hear good things about »www.iphantom.com.
Works with all P2P, no prob apparently. |
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owenhome
keeper of the magic blue smoke
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Bentonville, AR
| Stupid is as stupid does....
If information can get from one computer to another, it can be traced from one computer to another. If packets don't know where they're going, getting there is a real problem. Go hop in your car with some arbitrary destination in mind. If you don't know where you're going, or have some kind of map to tell you how to get there, you never will.
If you don't want to get caught doing something, not doing it in the first place is a good place to start.
Did somebody say newsgroups?
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI | Least-Surprising Headline
...in a while anyways.
the EFF isn't stupid, they had to know this is exactly the crowd they would attract, wanted or unwanted. The question is, what steps did they take to prevent it? Apparently not many, if any at all. |
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grumpygeek
join:2004-12-14
Houston, TX | reply to Minister
Re: Whatever
The reality is actually not even that good; the "research" going on in tor consists apparently mostly of DDoS attacks, phishing, and blog-spamming.
Many hosts block any inbound IP connections from published TOR exit points. |
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Pony99CA
join:2004-09-05
Hollister, CA
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said by Minister  :Not true. You do know the EFF is a legit digital rights outfit, yes? P2P is clearly stated as a violation of the service. That's kind of ironic, isn't it? The EFF is one of the biggest defenders of P2P, but they don't want it on their network. 
I think the EFF does some good work, but they end up taking a lot of really bad stances. They're kind of like the ACLU of the computer world. |
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Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
Premium
join:2002-09-23
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Re: Least-Surprising Headline
said by Primis1 :...in a while anyways. the EFF isn't stupid, they had to know this is exactly the crowd they would attract, wanted or unwanted... Not fair. All good ideas can be used for other than originally intended purposes.
By your logic, Al Gore, the creator of the Internet  , is responsible for all the nefarious computer crimes. After all, he 'had to know this is exactly what crowd the Internet would attract.'
In other words, don't blame the EFF; blame the misusers.
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Cyron
join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC | reply to jbs123
Re: Anonymity?
Ever heard Freenet? Inefficient as hell, but anon. |
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Elijahbluegmailcom
@comcast.net
| From a daily TOR user
Well, I'm a TOR user. I use it mostly because I don't much like the idea of sites tracking me. I've got nothing to hide. I don't use P2P to scam music or movies. I'm really just your normal internet user who feels slightly creeped out by all the tracking of my activities I read about.
So, I run TOR as a form of 'peace of mind'. I know that I'm, at least a litte, more anon on the net when it's running.
And for that little bit of calm, I thank the EFF and the people that made TOR possible. |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | reply to Pony99CA
Re: Whatever
Yeah I think that's what the column hints at: Seems like they're faced with a choice here.
Either their network performance suffers, or they crack down on the very P2P file-trading they've in a round-about way been legally protecting.... |
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I am right here
@CMU.EDU | reply to Elijahbluegmailcom
Re: From a daily TOR user
With you on this one. Happy I stumbled on this though as my TOR is set up as a middle man I can just lower its QoS and Bandwidth.
Hopefully thieves will find other means of transport. |
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LordBritish
join:2003-08-02
Marina Del Rey, CA
| Idiots guide to P2P and Tor
How do you use Tor with bit torrent clients?
I tried playing around with Tor and bit torrent clients but it was not simple to setup.
Furthermore, I couldn't verify that I was truly anonymous.
A lot of the instructions on the web makes your browser anonymous, not your bit torrent client. |
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