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Comments on news posted 2005-09-30 12:06:49: As discussed, a long list of countries would like to take Internet governance away from "America-centric" ICANN, and hand it to a global body - quite possibly the UN's ITU. Yesterday administration officials repeated that such a hand off to the U.. ..
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 Okman
join:2001-10-01
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| I wouldn't mind a "World Internet" separate from the US one. Americans are the biggest net spammers out there. LOL the only thing the "US Internet" would have to offer is stinking Ebay and rednecks on 56k.
I'll go to the World Internet for everything else. Hackers will agree with me.
So I'm all for 2 internets! Hopefully I won't see rednecks crossing over to the World Net! | |
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join:2003-09-29
Rosemount, MN
| Come on people The military and government wanted a means to be able to communicate after a nuclear war and they decided to research a possibility after the launch of Sputnik. It was not meant specifically for war at all, but for communication.
The US did make the internet what is and don't confuse the development of the internet with its applications. A European may have invented the WWW, but it uses the Internet. The stack everything uses to actually stay connected and communicate like we are was created by two Americans. The creation of the TCP/IP protocol was by far more important than the creation of the web.
How about FTP? If you read the RFC for it, you will see that it was first proposed as a file transfer mechanism in 1971 at MIT. Gopher was created at the University of Minnesota, USENET Newsgroups were created in 1979 by two Duke University Graduates and e-mail predates the Internet, having been used in mainframes in 1965 (yes, it does, don't argue that without looking first).
Regarding e-mail, the US Air Force was using an early e-mail system in 1969, with people in 1979 leaving messages on a central computer system instead. The ITU adopted X.400, but it was IETF that created SMTP before it broke off from the US Government to become and individual body in the 1990s.
Honestly, they have a right to be defensive about it. The whole world did a lot more to create the internet and aspects of it, eh? Sounds like American universities and a former US Government-funded organization did a whole lot more than what you think they did.
As it stands, I think its okay for them to maybe take over governance of aspects of it as long as its the ITU or someone not directly attached to the bloated main portion of the UN. I do not want the ITU to have control of the root servers, however, because they don't invite the ICANN to meetings and its obvious they won't let some of the core members of ICANN in to help. If you want a compromise, you have to actually compromise by letting them in on meetings and such, too :P.
I agree with everyone wondering if its necessary, because it clearly is operating normally. I'm talking about the core internet, not email spam. I'm sure someone will go there :P. Some of the people they lock out from meetings have had crucial contributions to the development of the internet and its applications, and have a track record of being very good in their respective fields. I do NOT want to let someone govern it when they pull something like that. That is just plain dumb. | |
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Titus Pullo
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join:2004-06-26
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| The U.S. should have total control over the entire WWW, no doubt about it; I'm behind this all the way. Perhaps then the net would become f*cked up beyond all recognition (FUBAR) in short order, hopefully in time to put an end to the sublimely ubiquitous self-loathing circlejerks this forum aptly demonstrates. 
I mean, FEMA proves how well our government manages things, why not the World Wide Web? that "WORLD" thing's a bitch, I know, I know ... if only they'd simply ... go away. Well, maybe we can take 'em out. We have the ability to do that according to Pat Robertson.
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." -George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss.,
Sept. 20, 2005.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: The U.S. should have said by Titus Pullo  :total control over the entire WWW, no doubt about it; I'm behind this all the way. Perhaps then the net would become f*cked up beyond all recognition (FUBAR) in short order, hopefully in time to put an end to the sublimely ubiquitous self-loathing circlejerks this forum aptly demonstrates. I mean, FEMA proves how well our government manages things, why not the World Wide Web? that "WORLD" thing's a bitch, I know, I know ... if only they'd simply ... go away. Well, maybe we can take 'em out. We have the ability to do that according to Pat Robertson.
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." -George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005. Yeah FEMA really shows how good we are at management. 
PS: WWW is not American development, so sorry, we cannot keep it then. | |
| Drake34
join:2005-09-24
Niceville, FL | Kofi should quit. Yeah we all know the U.N. has done a bang up job on everything else they've been doing lately. Let's just hand over the internet to them so they can bungle that up as well. Kofi will probably just start a porn for food program. | |
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HardwareGeek
join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY
| imagine if the EU controled the net We would have dumbed down versions like Internet N
We would also have to uninstall all protocols from our systems and buy them from European companies.
Oh and lets not forget France censoring yahoo and ebay non stop to prevent them from putting up auctions that show France ugly past or history sites that show how chicken they are when it comes to defending their own country.
Or what about Canada their record industry will force pop ups on us that says p2p makes you cut school.
Or China anything bad about china and your site is shut down.
Leave it the way it is. Internet right now is ok censored somewhat but hey I rather leave it as is because the damage a world body can do to it will push us all away from it.
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
 ·Bright House
| All I have to say All I have to say is, I don't want a body who for the most part is anti American and will control what I read, watch and write. Shared responsibility my butt. The U.S developed it, we funded most of it, so we have the right to control it. Nothing is stopping other countries from developing there own internet. They had more than enough chances but they just like to ride on the backs of others and call it there own. | |
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Anonymous
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join:2004-06-01
IA
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| Not a surprise Well I can't blame other nations. US is seen as #1 threat to the world peace. They don't like us anymore. I think they should have at least some control. With all these pro corporate laws here I would not mind. Maybe if they control it it will not be locked down anti p2p network our lawmakers are trying to make. | |
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sapo
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA | To a lot of people 
Stop talking please
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| Sunburn
join:2000-10-05
Denver, CO
1 edit | Bill the leaching punks Instead of giving them any sort of control we should hand those worthless socialists a bill and charge the sheit out of them for access. We should also levy a hefty tax on any non US citizen that wants to use it. We could use the money to deploy a gigabyte fiber connection to everyone in the USA! If they don't like it they can set up their own system with their own money.
FYI - The development of the internet from it's conception to now has cost the American tax payer HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars. Now these people who have never contributed a cent feel they are entitled to control it!? I am sick of giving out welfare checks directly from my pocket to theirs.... These people are insane. | |
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OceanaJones
join:2004-10-18
Suffolk, VA | What about... Al Gore? don't he have a say? After all wasn't it he who invented the internet? Or was that another lying politician? | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: What about... said by OceanaJones :Al Gore? don't he have a say? After all wasn't it he who invented the internet? Or was that another lying politician? whaa? How about you read actually what Al Gore said.
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