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Comments on news posted 2005-09-29 09:12:03: First the music industry informed Apple's Steve Jobs they wanted to charge more than 99 cents for popular tracks, leading Jobs to suggest the industry was "getting greedy". ..

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MEDIAN2k3
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good riddance

good let them pull the plug and let piracy sky rocket even further, if they cant take the cut they get now then they need to start doing things themselves.
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Aramis604
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getting greedy?

They're already greedy..

But Kudos to Apple for standing up to 'em.
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roflmao

Funniest thing I read all morning. Apple has the biggest success rate to date in getting people to purchase music legally online rather than downloading it and because they wont bend over and take it, the music industry feels they are getting to powerful. Amazing!

Sure, go ahead, pull the plug on Apple's I-Tune store... Apple supposedly loses money on it anyway but I bet it doesn't do a thing to discourage IPOD sales.
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BlitzenZeus
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 They just want more money and hardware revenue??

They sound like babies! Mommy I want!! Steve had a good point, users can still get it from other sources, but if they keep prices decent many people will still buy the songs at .99 each.

Greedy lying through their teeth bastards.

amungus
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go ahead

and see if anyone really cares! What, are they going to "pull the plug" on every other legal music service?

Dumb move... more money for what exactly? He's already made labels a boatload of otherwise invisible money. Pushing for him/itunes to demand more from people will just drive them to other means of getting music....... Jobs isn't an idiot, I mean, it's amazing that Apple's still as strong as they are.

If they do this to Rhapsody (or Napster, or any 'subscription') I'll be kinda upset.. What, they don't care about those services or something??? I get way more value from them, the tracks are $.10 cheaper than itunes, and I don't even have to 'buy' anything.

Stick it to the man Steve.


dadkins
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What a bunch of tards!

OMG! WTF are they smoking? Oh yeah, pull the plug on a cash cow... DUH! Morons!
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GreggE
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Pull it

They are absolutely stupid to mess with the largest online music service. When they take away places to purchase music, people will find it elsewhere on P2P or just not buy it at all. Are they gonna ask for a cut on all other MP3 players?


NPGMBR

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Don't Think This Will Hurt Apple........

If the music cartels pull Apples lisences it won't affect Apple much because the consumer will still be able to buy and use their iPod.

The problem comes in when consumers want to get new music.......where they will either get it illegally or from some other source. Which means this tactic will likely backfire on the cartels.


garagerock
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muwahahahhahaha

too funny. I want to see the outcome of this "throw out the baby with the bathwater" attitude they have...

joshpo

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"very few people buy music from digital downloads"

Yeah, and the few people that do will go back to piracy should the music store go up in flames. They are so stupid. Do they actually think that the music store is what is driving the iPod craze?? You have got to be kidding me. I'd love to stop 10 people on the street and ask them how many iTunes store tracks are on their iPod.


tazman69
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Re: Don't Think This Will Hurt Apple........

My guess is that someone will develop a way to convert (CODEC) those .mp3s to the I-pod format. Then you can download all those "pirated" tunes and play them on that I-pod.

The music companies still don't get it. They are living in the past and have no real intention to evolve and adapt to the new future. They really need to get some new blood into the biz and shake it up... a paradigm shift. For whatever reason, the big labels insist that they can milk that cash cow for years to come. Instead of realizing they can reduce their distribution and physical production costs to make up for a portion they are giving up as part of their old business model. Truly amazing.


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napster.


alg
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 I may not like Apple

but kudos to them and Steve for having the cahones to stand up to the industry.
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stonecolddsl
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Re: "very few people buy music from digital downloads"

as a ipod photo 20 gig and a ipod mini 6 gig onwer between both of them I have like 5 itunes bought songs out of 600


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They won't do it

They won't pull the plug on all that free money. These jerks are so used to bullying people into giving them what they want, they figure Apple will fold. Jobs will tell them to shove it, and they'll have to eat it, because in the long run, they will lose money and they know it.

Just more proof the RIAA is a throwback. They use the same ol' shitty tactics they have for decades.

How long will it take this beast to die all ready....


Jeffrey
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To the Record Industry....

Don't wound something you can't kill.


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Re: Don't Think This Will Hurt Apple........

said by tazman69 See Profile :

My guess is that someone will develop a way to convert (CODEC) those .mp3s to the I-pod format. Then you can download all those "pirated" tunes and play them on that I-pod.
Why would you have to convert them? iPods have always played mp3s.


tazman69
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Didnt know that.

Even bigger reason for the labels to get their s**t together and come into the year 2005. It still amazes me that they cant change.


NOCMan
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Congress can step in.

It can be considered price gouging if the record companies make it where buying music online is more expensive than buying the cd's in stores.

Several reasons music online should be cheaper than cd's.

Most online music that can be purchased is DRM encumbered.

Most online music in some cases cost more than what you can buy it in the store.

Also it's not right that the music industry allows ala carte buying of songs on the internet, then realises once we have a choice, we only buy the good stuff and leave the crap that fills many cd's alone.

Also I have to wonder what percentage of online sales does Apple count for when you consider that the music industry cries foul when Wal-Mart tells them to lower thier prices or they they will quit selling cd's and dvd's.

At Walmart cd/dvd sales account for slightly less than 1% of their revenue. However for the music industry Walmart accounts for 40% of their sales (2003 I think).

Clearly Walmart can care less and it's more of they think prices are too high. Apple could probably work out some way to get walmart to back them up. 2 companies standing up to the MPAA/RIAA and saying enough is enough would make my day.
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GhostDoggy

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Announcing the RIAA Bendover MP3 player!

Yessir, they wish to establish a means to offset their lack of control in the free-market with a heavily-controlled dictatorship. So, let them produce their own MP3 player and we can sit back and watch it fail.

Seriously though, this is an opportunity for them to make inroads into the PMP arena and what better way to do it then to shutdown everyone else's ability to do it?
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