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Comments on news posted 2005-09-23 16:09:35: Not long ago we mentioned how the $40, 10Mbps fiber connections being offered by a Utah municipal project (UTOPIA) were actually causing Comcast to lower prices in response to a competitive threat, something that's virtually unheard of among the coun.. ..

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sweepy

join:2003-12-12
Apex, NC
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Cool

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
O.k. guys, name one bad thing about this muni....

Give me one well thought out argument against UTOPIA.


PenguinChill
How I Wish You Were Here

join:2001-02-12
Fishers, IN
Re: O.k. guys, name one bad thing about this muni.

It's evil according to Comcast.

Ok it wasn't thought out, but it's the only thing against the muni.


Sunsetstrip
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Till Muni's are killed

Good to see that finally cable franchises(virtual monopolies in my eyes) get some competition besides DSL,which really isn't,I could never afford DSL comparable to my 8/800 cable connection.

Get it while you can folks before SBC and the rest of the industry has your legislators in the 'ol hip pocket
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Rob
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reply to moonpuppy
Re: O.k. guys, name one bad thing about this muni.

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

Give me one well thought out argument against UTOPIA.
I can name one thing bad about this muni...

They aren't in my town!


jjoshua
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join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
Can UTOPIA compete?

Comcast is going to compete with UTOPIA?

What happens if Comcast wins?

UTOPIA is a good product at a good price. UTOPIA is not a company that can easily offer competition if Comcast decides to enter their market.


HurtMeSomeMore

@comcast.net
I can really use a break!

I'm paying $60.95 a month for 4Mb service ,and Comcast isn't even giving me "The" speed upgrade! Go Munis!

I'm getting really tired of being abused!


diehardspeed
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Salt Lake City, UT

 I am being ripped off!

Utopia is just around the corner from where I live. When I went to get a DVR the guy could not figure out my pricing, the reason being he couldn't tell if i was in a UTOPIA covered area or not. (Turns out I'm a few blocks short)

It's not fair to know the people just down the street are paying half of what I am paying for the exact same service!

UTOPIA PLEASE EXTEND YOUR ARMS TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD!!!
I'M SORRY FOR EVER SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU!!!


MSauk
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who would of thought utah would have ever been in the news regarding high speed broadband! lol I lived there for 7 years and the entire state was behind everyone by 20 years! (ok I know it wasnt that much, but it felt like that)
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Boricua65

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reply to Sunsetstrip
Re: Till Muni's are killed

I agree. I hope John McCain (I think) passes legislation to allow Munis do what UTOPIA is doing. This is the type of competition that is healthy for America.

EDIT: misspelled a word.


Derrickt

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reply to MSauk
Re: I am being ripped off!

Why is Utah has fiber and the Silicon valley does not? =(


diehardspeed
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Salt Lake City, UT
reply to MSauk
I know what you mean!

When Sprint Broadband came into town they where the closest thing to broadband I could get for about the last 5 years. (And they sucked BIGTIME)


sporkme
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reply to jjoshua
Re: Can UTOPIA compete?

said by jjoshua See Profile :

Comcast is going to compete with UTOPIA?

What happens if Comcast wins?

UTOPIA is a good product at a good price. UTOPIA is not a company that can easily offer competition if Comcast decides to enter their market.
Couldn't Comcast sign on to Utopia and offer their services over the network?

Just a thought, from what I understand it's an "open" network that any service provider can join.

coded flat

join:2004-02-29
Las Vegas, NV
Munis or bust

My brother has service on the utopia network and he loves it.

I had to move about 3 weeks before it was ready in my area. Just my luck. Vegas needs to start this but knowing vegas the politicians have already been bought.


gheezer
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Well thought out argument against MUNI's

if Muni's recieve government funds, that leaves them open to constitutional challanges regarding Data that's allowed to pass across the network.

If government funds are used to fund the Muni...

some fringe radical liberal is going to demand that the local preacher TV channel NOT be shown...(bad)

or...

Some fringe radical conservative is going to demand that anything even remotely related to porn NOT be available across that network.(really really bad!)

I'm not kidding, this is going to happen...

(and who's going to police the police to make sure they're not spying on you!)

I'm not PRO cable, I just happen to work for one, and if a Muni drives them out of business, then I'll go work for the Muni...it's not a big deal to me, it's just a job.

I do believe tho, that if you take Cable TV and Cable Internet out of private hands and start funding it with public money, you WILL see this kind of constitutional challenge some day.
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PARADOX_SEV

join:2005-02-08
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Sandy, Utah didn't sign up for UTOPIA. Murray did and I am enjoying the $29.95 service courtesy of Comcast until UTOPIA is installed in my house. 15 megs for $44.:)

rockboy128

join:2005-09-23
Pittsburgh, PA

Munis or ANY competition would be nice

We have just had a Verizon FIOS rollout in our neighborhood. Cable had been the only high speed option up until now. To boot, we are stuck with Adelphia as that cable provider. Talk about inept. I called adelphia to see if they would react. Mind you, I live in a fairly affluent neighborhood in our region. They were completely unresponsive. I let them know, that not only would they be losing my broadband business, but when Verizon rolls out IPTV early next year, they'll be losing my television business as well. "I'm sorry to hear that is what the supervisor said." Can you believe that. Further, even though VOIP has been offered by Comcast for nearly 2 years now, Adelphia STILL has no intention of offering it....and they are the premium provider in the area...their pricing is almost 10% higher across the board than Comcast...JOKE.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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reply to gheezer
Re: Well thought out argument against MUNI's

Problem is that in private hands, prices go up. No competition means higher prices as this article states. There is no argument on that.

Also, this is Utah. Land of the Mormans. If they haven't banned porn yet, my guess is they won't.

Also, Comcast already spies on you and sells your information. What is the difference with government?


gheezer
Compooters R Us
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Henrietta, NY

Takes a warrant or subpeona today by law enforcement to get any data on you the customer to the police. I know this as part of my job.

The Mormon's have nothing to do with this, challenges to data made available across taxpayer funded networks will come from far right and far left political action groups.

You asked, I answered, the problem with Taxpayer funded data networks is that they are open to constitional challenge regarding what data can pass across them, and that expectations of privacy for the consumer are tenuous at best.
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gheezer
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reply to rockboy128
Re: Munis or ANY competition would be nice

have you ever poked your nose into the Adelphia forum? Ya mighta gotten an answer there if ya asked nicely..
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