NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| What next
Will they force me to watch commercials.. demand sensors be installed in couches to know when we get up and do other things while commercials are playing. Install sensors to make sure we dont avert our eyes during commercials. Have mandatory quizzes about commercials after the shows before the movie plays further.
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BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
Premium,MVM
join:2000-01-13
Beaverton, OR |  Greedy bastards, they don't even provide the ads
So we would pay more if we skip ads on channels were PAYING FOR... Yet another way to screw the consumer, the channel is already paid so who in the F*** are they to charge us if we don't watch the ads? |
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HardwareGeek
join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY
| Sad
All of you complain about ads. Ads on websites ads on TV. If you guys didn't try so hard to circumvent ads they wouldn't try so hard to force more ads or us or try to make money from you a different way.
Want free TV ditch cable and stick with your local channels.
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cob_
1310nm Of Goodness
Premium
join:2003-07-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to NOCMan
Re: What next
Can't wait.
Until we all just say "F*** it" and start pirating their content uncontrollably. DRM is evil. |
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX | Make your own PVR!
Thats exactly what I did, use Beyond TV and you will love it!
Tivo's got nothing on it.
www.snapstream.com |
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cob_
1310nm Of Goodness
Premium
join:2003-07-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to HardwareGeek
Re: Sad
Ah no, even your local channels run commercials. I think you've missed the point. |
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En Enfer
This account has been compromised
join:2003-07-25
Montreal, QC
 ·VIF Internet
| Ri-di-cu-lous
After reading the news 2 daus ago about the RIAA wanting more from ITunes for popular songs, and the honest answer from the CEO reffering to piracy as a solution for their master plan... and now I'm reading THIS as a commercials on TV solution?
Whose 2-watts brain IQ thought about "Control-based content pricing"?
Idiots. |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL | reply to NOCMan
Re: What next
Talk about Clockwork Orange. let's peel your eyes open and force you to watch our brainwashing commercial propaganda so we can make more money  |
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Jamuka
join:2005-06-06
| reply to HardwareGeek
Re: Sad
Well not quite. Cable used to have A LOT less ads when it first started and nobody was capable of circumventing anything for years after cable was available and yet ads increased to the point where no channel is without them except for the pay channels (i.e. HBO, etc.). So you are wrong to say that they wouldn't force more ads on us because they did that a long time ago. |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
|  reply to navalpatel
Re: Make your own PVR!
said by navalpatel  :
Thats exactly what I did, use Beyond TV and you will love it!
Tivo's got nothing on it.
KnoppMyth!
»www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html
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clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI
| reply to HardwareGeek
Re: Sad
You're mostly correct. Advertising is a trade of the viewer's time for programming. Unfortunately, broadcasters have increasingly tipped the balance of that trade in their favor by inserting more commercials, more promotional messages and on top of that, inserting "snipes" (stupid lower-third advertising) in the middle of the programming. Mark my word, as snipes and those silly "info popups" become more common place, it's all a warm-up to get you to accept them in the middle of the program.
Commercial time used to be tightly regulated, now it's a free-for-all where the commercials can be anywhere from 25% to 100% (infomercials). Some stations have resorted to dropping entire frames of programming so that at the end of the program, they'll have an extra thirty or sixty seconds of advertising to sell paid-for by the viewer! How's that for respecting your audience?
By-passing commercials is an attempt to push that balance to a more equal footing. Broadcasters haven't figured out that the viewer now understands that their time is a valuable commodity. When they treat it as such, they'll either provide more valuable programming, cut back on the number of commercials or be forced into irrelevance by technology.
Unfortunately, the latter seems to be the way it's going to play out.
Worst case scenario is that time-shifting and PVRs that are fully capable of commercial skipping will enter into the domain of the uber geek. Those who can make them, get all the benefits. Those who can't, are stuck with whatever Microsoft deems them worthy of having. |
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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | reply to cob_
Re: What next
Ooops!
Too late |
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UnionJax
join:2002-09-25
Richmond, IN
| VCR
Looks like its time for us to go backwards and bring back the VCR, at least we can control what we record that way. I really like my TiVo, I hope they don't try and stop me fast-forwarding the commercials in the future. Even more disturbing is if DVR's start self erasing time sensitive shows.  |
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mph300
Two Thirds The Way There
join:2000-11-09 | Microsoft DVR..........
No thanks, I'll keep my replay 5000 series where I can do as I wish(at least for the time being anyhow).
Mike
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JAAulde
yum yum yum yum yum
Premium,MVM
join:2001-05-09
Hagerstown, MD
| They are in the business to make money
said by DSLR/BBR Article: Microsoft DVR: Pay More if You Skip Ads :
but let's hope this isn't the industry's answer - unless they want to push users toward home-brew Bit Torrent solutions.
Remembering that the entrainment industry is in the business to make money, and remembering that Americans and many others are seeking more for less (often to the point of seeking free versions), I think that anything the industry does to maintain their revenues will lead to "home-brew Bit Torrent solutions."
I don't partake in or support piracy, nor do I stand behind the industry's methods of "preventing" it. But articles like this always make me think about the fact that nobody wants to pay for products received, and everybody wants to make money through the sale of their own products. The battle will never end!
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
1 edit | reply to UnionJax
Re: VCR
If they ever implement this on Comcast, back goes the DVR and Comcast loses the $9.95/mo in DVR fees.
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Razgriz
Pandora rocks
Premium
join:2005-05-31
Fayetteville, NC
clubs:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| What the hell?
Greed, Greed, Greed. This kind of shit is simply outrageous. Why the hell should we pay more if we want to skip ads? Bull.
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seriousinvid
@verizon.n
| Not!
I guess this ultimately means Verizon is NOT serious about video.. with all these restrictions, AND a higher over-all price structure? No wonder it ended up in BellAtlantic vaporware back in 1996!!!!!
Its non-inovatative attitude like that which will make the VIDEO portion of fios bounce bigger than the gas bills at the pump!! |
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dslhater
Premium
join:2001-09-24
Chicopee, MA
clubs: | reply to NOCMan
Re: What next
Yeah sure give them more ideas. I bet they will think about all your suggestions lol |
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
Premium
join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA | This is economically legitimate
Ads are the major source of revenue for TV channels. If broadcast TV didn't have ads, it wouldn't exist. So if you are guaranteed not to have any commercials, you are one less ad viewer who will have to pay full price to watch. |
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