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3 edits |  BPL will never overtake Cable/DSL
I don't mind seeing BPL get its shot, but it will never provide much competition to DSL or Cable or FTTH. It may someday provide some competition to satellite technology because of satellites round trip delay times. The people hyping BPL as some great advance are greatly overselling it.
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rollobancher
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I really dont give if it doesnt take over cable or dsl. All i care about is if BPL can give me over a 52-kbps connection that my dial-up ISp is providing me. I really dont get you guys that already have broadband and are dissing on BPL. Dont you remember the days when you were stuck on dial-up also ???? IT SUCKS! |
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| said by rollobancher  : I really dont give if it doesnt take over cable or dsl. All i care about is if BPL can give me over a 52-kbps connection that my dial-up ISp is providing me. I really dont get you guys that already have broadband and are dissing on BPL. Dont you remember the days when you were stuck on dial-up also ???? IT SUCKS! Ever hear of satellite?? It is available now. It isn't perfect, but it is better than dial-up. Too expensive for you??
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| Even if it was expensive to him. Does it matter to you? So poorer people shouldn't be allowed to have a HSI option even if it is inferior in speeds?
That makes sense. In your opinion we should keep dialcrap alive, huh? |
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1 edit | said by somevipperson :
Even if it was expensive to him. Does it matter to you? So poorer people shouldn't be allowed to have a HSI option even if it is inferior in speeds?
That makes sense. In your opinion we should keep dialcrap alive, huh?
If you can read, I never said block BPL rollout. But it isn't going to move quickly, so satellite is an OPTION if he wants higher speeds now.
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the niTz
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Lefty
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Satelite is expensive and BPL is a great idea. Just because he is stuck on dial-up doesn't give you the right to assume he is finacially unstable. |
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said by the niTz :isnt sat like a few hundred for setup and a hundred or so amonth for service? $100 for install; $100/mo 1st year; $60/mo after 1st yr.
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Or »www.rapidsatellite.com/SearchRes···oryID=43
DIRECWAY Special Offer - ONLY $59.99 Down and $99/month for 15 months, then $59/mo. after that. Includes Standard Professional Installation Both deals are cheaper for internet access if you also get DirecTV too.
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anonME
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Wow something California is behind that I can agree to; never thought I'd see the day ::D Those of you who keep booing BPL.. nut'n but a bunch of girlie men.:) |
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wannagofast8
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pmk11584
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Lafayette, LA |  So Long HF
Bye Bye HF radio. :(
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Re: So Long HF
said by pmk11584 :Bye Bye HF radio. :( Who cares about initial aid to places like Katrina anyway, just as long as those outside the disaster area have at least slow broadband.
(And for those who can not think, yes BPL would not affect radios in the south since there are/was no power lines, but for those outside the area trying to listen to people in the south, it could degrade the SNR since they still have power and make it hard or impossible to hear pleas for help. But who cares, Ishna Allah)
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about 1 hr ago i posted and ppl replied now those posts are gone?
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en102
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Re: BPL will never overtake Cable/DSL
I think that it will depend on price, and if it works in areas not served by DSL or Cable. The only people that may fear BPL is DirecWay satellite.
Here's how I would see it working out.. this is PURE SPECULATION ONLY!
LADWP: $20/month for 1Mbps/128kbps (
SoCal. Edison: $75/month for 512kbps/64kbps, in between rolling blackouts, or in my neighborhood - monthly outages. |
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sbrook
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Nothing like a good irrelevent post. BPL is technologically flawed by its inherent design. |
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anonME
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Re: So Long HF
Authorities and relief agencies bring their own comnunications. I've read reports where the cellular companies very quickly brought coverage to the areas hit. WiMAX is now being deployed there too. I have doubts to the significance HF radio really played in providing help. (Not the people, the technology) I'd be very interested after all this is done an honest independent study to the positive affect HF radio played in bringing true relief. |
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1 edit | said by anonME :
I have doubts to the significance HF radio really played in providing help. (Not the people, the technology) I'd be very interested after all this is done an honest independent study to the positive affect HF radio played in bringing true relief.
Enough apparently that FEMA filed a brief with the FCC opposing BPL on the basis that it would interfere with necessary HF radio channels during a disaster.
It isn't hard to understand that when all existing in-place infrastructure goes off-line, the ability of direct communications using HF radio are the only thing working.
And let's not think that the BPL interference issue would resolve itself in the area with the infrastructure power failure. In European tests, Italian BPL tests interfered with HF radio communications in the UK. California BPL would be capable of interfering with Louisiana HF radio emergency communications. Imagine the total chaos that thousands of these radiating BPL systems would cause to HF radio!
As of today, the American Red Cross is still crying for additional Ham Radio operator teams with equipment to provide communications to a significant number of shelters without communication capability.
Why not answer the question as to what role HF communications *are* playing in relief efforts by tuning in to the HF Ham Radio communications yourself and monitoring for a while today? Crank up your radio and take a listen while you still can before BPL totally pollutes the precious HF radio spectrum. |
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