Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | Funny
For an FCC so against "burdensome regulations", this order seems awfully cumbersome.
I must acknowledge my VoIP 911 service has issues, or my punishment is my VoIP line can only be used for 911 calls. That is pretty damn funny. |
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Trill
join:2003-12-18
Crestview, FL | Only funny if E911 didn't work on any phones from any VoIP provider. This is not the case, so the policy makes perfect sense. |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
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Only funny if E911 didn't work on any phones from any VoIP provider. This is not the case
If the 911 service worked, then "the policy" was unecessary in the first place.
What is this, Terry Gilliam's "Brazil"? Vonage forget to fill out form 27-B/6? |
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:   | reply to Minister
LMFAO thats ironic |
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Heterman
Premium
join:2004-02-28
Fayetteville, AR | Over and Over
(Set a date. Extend it. Set a date. Extend it.)* ∞ |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH | Great
More time for innocent people to call 911 and not be able to talk and hang up and die because 911 could not trace back the call.
I love my landline. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Think about it
Not only have they extended but,what about CELL phones?
They where to have 911 to your location but never did it.(far as i know)
Fcc lets that slip by, ooo thats right the bells can BUY there way out of it. |
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fitzov
join:2005-01-13
Mansfield Center, CT | FCC lets that slip by because VOIP providers have no political clout other than offering their customers an awesome deal. Go figure. |
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fcisler
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY
| reply to hayabusa3303
said by hayabusa3303  :Not only have they extended but,what about CELL phones? They where to have 911 to your location but never did it.(far as i know) Fcc lets that slip by, ooo thats right the bells can BUY there way out of it. As far as i've seen, and on every cell phone i have ever had (going back ohh around 5+ years), they ALL have E911 service....even if NOT ACTIVE (no pricing plan). In fact, my girlfriend's cell phone, my parents, and my sisters all have LBS (Location Based Services) with two options:
1) Enabled
2) Disabled (Except E911)
Although i've never had to call 911 on a cell for an emergency (My first 3 or so phones i called to test it), but if they are making this much fuss over VoIP, i'm gonna bet that cell 911 is pretty good. |
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L2006
join:2001-12-03
Stratford, ON | Difficult???
I HAD to respond on my packet8 line... when I tried to make a call, i was voice prompted to make a decision, either press 1 for I understand, or 2 for not in the USA or don't want it.
Doesn't get any easier than that!! |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: |  Sounds like Packet8 used a very efficient method. Kudos to them!
Lingo peppered me relentlessly with voicemails and emails. |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
 ·Packet8
| reply to Heterman
Re: Over and Over
said by Heterman :(Set a date. Extend it. Set a date. Extend it.)* ∞ Just like HDTV... and no more analog broadcasts.
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It's NOT Ni-kon It's NE-KON!
"Life is like a dogsled team. If you aren't the lead dog, the scenery never changes"
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RiftReaper
join:2002-02-21
Vancouver, WA
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Re: Difficult???
cell phones are cool! because they dial the 911 center closest to where you are at the time. so if you live in LA and have a cell phone number in LA and take a trip to NY and have to dial 911, you will get a 911 center in NY. That is the same basic concept that VOIP providers are trying to deploy. |
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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | reply to Minister
Re: Funny
It kind of reminds me of a high school policy from way back. If you are caught skipping school, then the punishment is a 3 day suspension. 
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k_mumm
join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY | reply to fcisler
Re: Think about it
No it's not good at all. The blame can also be put on some of the 911 call centers. They don't have the cash to update thier systems to interface with the new cell phone emegency location system. |
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k_mumm
join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY
| reply to RiftReaper
Re: Difficult???
You do understand it's a lot harder for a voip adapter to know where it is physically located right? I haven't heard of a good solution for the system to automatically update where it is without user input.
Cell phones are easy. They always know what tower they are on and the provider routes the call accordingly. |
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mikes60
My Paradise
Premium
join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
·Vonage
| reply to hayabusa3303
Re: Think about it
said by hayabusa3303 :Not only have they extended but,what about CELL phones? They where to have 911 to your location but never did it.(far as i know) Fcc lets that slip by, ooo thats right the bells can BUY there way out of it. Many cell phones do give locations, but you're comparing apples to oranges.
Cell phones are portable and never have an exact address associated them. The technology to do this is available, but expensive and difficult to implement.
Land line VOIP phones usually have an exact address associated with them. There are exceptions, such as I know are available on Vonage and probably others, where you can pick another area code for your number. If you do this, and dial 911, it's obviousy a problem unless you set it up correctly with Vonage. They may have a way of identifying where the phone is actually located. But I'm not sure of this.
While I'm not sure another extension was proper, a comparison to cell phones is not valid
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Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday--so why bother? |
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manifest
bitches
join:2004-08-14
Hartford, CT | reply to Subaru
Re: Over and Over
Wrong, it is not for HDTV it's for digital tv. Two very different things. »www.fcc.gov/dtv/ |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs: | reply to Heterman
I know that I'm saying they are the same way |
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ronny_b
join:2004-10-10
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to fcisler
Re: Think about it
I had to call 911 for emergencies twice a few years ago. In both cases, the call went to a different city, and had to be transferred back to my location. My cell service was with AT&T if that counts for anything.
It may be better today. Thank God I haven't had to find out.
Ron |
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