oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | The solution is simple...
To call the service 9-1-1 it should have to meet certain federal standards. When VOIP operators stop calling it 9-1-1 there won't be any confusion from the idiots who ignored the 50 zillion disclaimers VOIP operators have when you sign up. |
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P Ness
You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
Premium
join:2001-08-29
Mineola, NY
clubs: 
| said by oliphant  :To call the service 9-1-1 it should have to meet certain federal standards. When VOIP operators stop calling it 9-1-1 there won't be any confusion from the idiots who ignored the 50 zillion disclaimers VOIP operators have when you sign up. Even if you did this the laywers would say...well you have the number "9" "1" "1" on the dial program you have...so we are going to blame you!
Sue Sue Sue!!
they should counter sue this woman into the ground as an example for the financial harm she caused the company. Sue the laywer as well for defimation. sure she went through hell and lost her kid...but this would cause people to stop and think before they act.
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | I don't know the facts but if, as it sounds, Vonage proved the call went through (twice), sue the lawyer. Leave the woman alone. The lawyer is the enabler. |
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jhh
join:2005-05-25
Fargo, ND
| Irresponsible parents
Well if a parent is responsible right before their kid was born. They would have taken several first aid and cpr classes, have a list of the direct emergency numbers in their area stuck to their phone. So if such an event occurs and they are unable to reach an emergency number, they can handle the problem themselves, instead of wasting a riduculous amount of time for a paramedic to save a choking kid or treat a severe injury. An ambulance cannot get your kid to a hospital any faster than you can get there yourself, especially if you live in an area with a volunteer service. |
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needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ | Copy of the letter
Does anyone have a copy of the letter Vonage sent out warning customers they will be disconnected? I didn't see it in the links above.
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
| The Vonage letter:
Dear Valued Vonage Customer,
We have sent numerous notifications requiring that you view a notice on our 911 Dialing. Pursuant to an Order from the Federal Communications Commission, if you do not acknowledge this notice, we will be required to restrict your outbound calling for your Vonage service. To view and acknowledge our 911 Dialing notice, please click here.
Even if you have already activated 911, due to a recently announced FCC 911 ruling we are required to ensure that you acknowledge your understanding of these differences. It is mandatory that you act now so that we may continue to provide you with Vonage service.
Please note, if you have multiple Vonage accounts you must acknowledge that you have read and understand the 911 Dialing notice for each account separately.
To determine which account this is in reference to we have included your account information below: |
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cbrain
join:2000-05-21
Silver Spring, MD
 ·VoicePulse for Bus..
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VoiceStick
·Packet8
| reply to oliphant
Re: The solution is simple...
So in their effort to protect me from my own failing, big brother will completely disconnect me and keep me from direct dialing help to keep me from perhaps dialing 911 and not getting what I’ve been warned I wouldn’t get. Their warning is sent in writing to inform the people that failed to read the original warning when they signed up. And my taxes just went up. |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | Funny, but that's about the size of it.  |
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UglyDork
Premium
join:2002-01-09
Buffalo, NY
·Vonage
| reply to Minister
Re: Copy of the letter
But how do you acknowledge? I've never received an email, and I've even logged onto my Dashboard but I do not see anything there relating to this.
The only think I received was a letter in the mail stating that you can dial 933 to verify if you have e911 in your area yet.
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Toadman
How do you like these Apples
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
| Still Waiting for my Sticker
Voicepulse send out the same letter, and then about a week later stated that they will be sending out phone stickers, like the 10-10-*** cheep looking stickers that say that this phone cannot dial 911, dial this number instead.
I still have not seen the sticker yet,
BTW, I plan on writing in 912 since I am a member of the Springfield Stonecutters! |
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wildcards2000
| POTS
This is too funny  Same people here crying about 911 not working on VOIP are the same ones saying people are dumb for having POTS in the DSL forum. Look before you leap.;) |
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aaron12345
join:2002-12-17
Falls Church, VA | a simple solution
Everytime someone dials an outside call, have a message saying "You must log into your dashboard and acknowledge our 911 disclaimer" before they connect their call. That would get nice and annoying fast and seems like it would get the job done. |
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radarman
join:2005-06-01
Odenton, MD
| reply to wildcards2000
Re: POTS
VoIP is not an all or nothing type of deal. I save so much money a month on long distance that I can easily afford a metered-rate POTS line for emergencies. My total bill, after taxes, is about $42/mo - even though we probably use several HOURS of long distance a day. |
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UHF
All static, all day, Forever
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
clubs:
 ·Qwest.net
·Callcentric
 ·surpasshosting
 ·Dish Network
·Future Nine Corpor..
| reply to rradina
Re: The solution is simple...
said by rradina :I don't know the facts but if, as it sounds, Vonage proved the call went through (twice), sue the lawyer. Leave the woman alone. The lawyer is the enabler. Yes, if true it sounds like it may be an instance of malicious litigation, a very serious charge. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace
| reply to rradina
Actually, that's wrong. An attorney is supposed to do whatever the will of their client(s) is/are -- not what they personally believe. The only truth is the fact that he could have refused to represent her -- but then again, how many attorneys do you know that are going to turn down money. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to UglyDork
Re: Copy of the letter
I got two letters in the mail about this never email,humm. I signed up for the 911 the day i got vonage running over a year now. Next day i got a email saying both lines are ready to go. I have never had to use 911 so i cant comment on that.
Funny thing about this is when i went with vonage, and told bellsouth where to stick it with there over price services, i did hook up my phone outside to the line 3 weeks ago and i have 911 access but thats it.
Question: Doesnt the Fcc say that every POTS phone active or not has to have access to 911? I cant find it why am asking. |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL
| I See DUMB people
I see dumb people and they like to sue others for their misfortune.
I see dumb people and they create havoc and mayhem because they have small brains that don't understand what a disclaimer is.
I see dumb people who think justice can be found on the dollar bill and that's enough to ease their pain
And it's Ok to point fingers and say "your fault, your fault"
Eventho the calls DID go through
Eventho it would have made sense to have a back-up phone, Eventho a cheap pay-as-you-go cell phone with no minutes will still call 911
Viable options for you, for your peace of mind, for your baby were never taken.
So sure it's still Ok to point fingers and say "your fault, your fault" |
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
·Comcast
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to jhh
Re: Irresponsible parents
said by jhh :Well if a parent is responsible right before their kid was born. They would have taken several first aid and cpr classes, have a list of the direct emergency numbers in their area stuck to their phone. So if such an event occurs and they are unable to reach an emergency number, they can handle the problem themselves, instead of wasting a riduculous amount of time for a paramedic to save a choking kid or treat a severe injury. An ambulance cannot get your kid to a hospital any faster than you can get there yourself, especially if you live in an area with a volunteer service. Wrong on the volunteer ambulance service. In my town the ambulance response is under 3 minutes on average. The hospital is almost 20 miles away. The ambulance can get anyone there much faster than a fellow citizen can plus they can render paramedic care on the scene and in transit..something a fellow citizen cannot do in transporting themselves. Just because it is a volunteer service does not mean quality goes down.
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ | reply to AtomicZero
Re: I See DUMB people
Too true. |
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JamesHutto
join:2004-05-09
Olar, SC
| correct me if i'm wrong
Someone correct me if I am wrong, cause its this way where I live. I live in a rural area w/o broadband so this isnt an issue with me, but here's my take.
If my phone line(POTS) is disconnected for whatever reason, I can still dial 911 and get through w/o any problems. I assume most people that have VoIP service had a POTS line at one time, and can just hook up a handset to use for 911 services. |
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