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| No Difference between cable and DSL ?
The only difference between the USAF and the USF is the letter 'A', but because cable and DSL are, ehhh.. (cough, cough), soooooooo similar, the USAF and the USF have much more in common than previously thought - they both ride on air. -- Alright, BIG MAN! So You Want To Make the BIG BUCK$, Eh??!!. . . . . . Do You Know How To Handle a Machine-gun? |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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The Consumer Reports survey finds that most users are pretty unhappy with aspects of both DSL & Cable providers. And DSL does worse than cable in most areas. A couple of Cable providers do better than the rest - Earthlink, Cox, RoadRunner, and Optimum Online.

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  baddata
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needs to be investigated themselves. |
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  djrobx
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1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail Weak article
It's hard to take any article seriously that has this:
quote: For the best values in broadband service: 11 SBC Yahoo 12 Verizon Theres a good likelihood that one or both of these DSL services are available where you live.
One or BOTH? I don't think I've ever seen a location where BOTH were available!
Why did they bother lumping Earthlink into their survey? It's not really fair to consider ONE competitive ISP. It makes Earthlink look a great ISP, where the reviews here show it to be mediocre. Even though Earthlink tops their charts, they don't recommend it in the editorial!
I think CR's 2002 Broadband article was better. It was short and sweet, and recommended users come to Broadband Reports to get the scoop on their ISP choices.
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 ProGamer1990
join:2005-07-27 Bedford, VA | reply to baddata Re: Consumer Reports
The only thing in my area is Direcway. I can't get Wireless,Dsl,or Cable in my area. I live 10 miles from Bedford VA. It's 2005 and nothing. |
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join:2001-12-25 Forest Hills, NY
| reply to baddata Actually Broadband Reports needs to be investigated for manipulating information on here and taking stories out of context and for intentionally manipulating news headlines. If there is payoffs involved (payola) such could warrant a lawsuit againt Broadband Reports. HAVE A NICE DAY BROADBAND REPORTS!
Satellite providers would have all fared last because of latency. This was not a fair comparison because satellite is for RURAL AREAS with no other access available. |
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  Heterman Premium join:2004-02-28 Fayetteville, AR
| said by AJ023 :Actually Broadband Reports needs to be investigated for manipulating information on here and taking stories out of context and for intentionally manipulating news headlines. If there is payoffs involved (payola) such could warrant a lawsuit againt Broadband Reports. HAVE A NICE DAY BROADBAND REPORTS! Please explain.  |
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  entropy1 Premium join:2002-09-25 | reply to AJ023 Someone had too much to drink already today.  |
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| reply to ProGamer1990 ProGramer1990: Actually, there are satellite providers (several) but with that being said, your 100% right, rural areas ARE limited to satellite so this was NOT a fair comparison. Companies arent last because they want to be, its because of the design and nature and limitation and costs involved, etc. etc... so rural areas get SATELLITE.
This article treated Direcway unfairly and that was uncalled for. |
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  Heterman Premium join:2004-02-28 Fayetteville, AR
| said by AJ023 :ProGramer1990: Actually, there are satellite providers (several) but with that being said, your 100% right, rural areas ARE limited to satellite so this was NOT a fair comparison. Companies arent last because they want to be, its because of the design and nature and limitation and costs involved, etc. etc... so rural areas get SATELLITE. This article treated Direcway unfairly and that was uncalled for. And how is this DSLR's fault? |
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2 edits | "Users in our Direcway forum point out that the survey was none too kind to the satellite provider, which they called the "worst provider in our survey," offering "relatively low satisfaction at a very high price.""
This statement was uncalled for and is NOT CORRECT. They did NOT compare Direcway to any other satellite provider. They used the word none too kind as if there was an issue with Direcway specifically. There was NO COMPARISON OF ANY SATELLITE PROVIDERS to Direcway! Satellite is completely different than other broadband types and is notoriously weaker and the customer know this unfortunately and is due to design of satellite broadband. This article was 100% biased against Direcway for no reason. All because consumer reports only rated 1 Satellite provider?
Had consumer reports rated other satellite providers they would have been all rated in the bottom, however Direcway could have been the top of the class possibly. We just dont know. |
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  Heterman Premium join:2004-02-28 Fayetteville, AR
1 edit | said by AJ023 :"Users in our Direcway forum point out that the survey was none too kind to the satellite provider, which they called the "worst provider in our survey," offering "relatively low satisfaction at a very high price."" Let me see if I can clear this up.
said by dslreports:
"Users in our Direcway forum point out that the survey was none too kind to the satellite provider, which they Consumer Reports called the "worst provider in our survey," offering "relatively low satisfaction at a very high price.""
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  CPUYODA
join:2003-01-25 Johnson City, TN | reply to entropy1 Sprint had better be looking,,,,
Seems like Sprint had better get on the ball about ping times....;) -- "In God We Trust,All Others Pay Cash" |
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join:2005-03-16 Coquitlam, BC | reply to AJ023 Re: Consumer Reports
Bwahahaha - Thanks for making me laugh with your ridiculous post, AJ023. |
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  NEP1611
join:2002-03-27 Northford, CT
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I agree, it sounds like the writer there doesn't have a clue as to how local phone service works. The next district I hear of that has SBC and Verizon to pick from will be the first.
To an extent, I think this goes to the entire article. In general, people will probably not have more than two or three of these providers available for their purchase, if that. So how much good is it, really, to know that Cox scored higher than Comcast, when all you can get is Comcast? Definitely not like when they compare pretty much anything else, where all of the products are available to be purchased (i.e., you don't have to live in the Maytag franchise area to buy a Maytag dishwasher.) |
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  hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs:
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Really who cares what consumer reports said. Alot of people are stuck with either cable or dsl and cant get both to see which on is better.
Hey consumer reports, ask the bells why alot of us dont have dsl, so we can give you OUR OWN REPORT. IN THIS FORUM.
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  Tsume
join:2004-02-23 Johnson City, TN | reply to TKJunkMail Re: Users unhappy with most providers
The ratings for COX seem pretty much right on the mark. |
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join:2004-02-18 Acton, ME
| Direcway
My question is (haven't read the article) was Consumer Reports complaining about the technical aspects of the Direcway service or the customer service? I know someone who used them a while ago for a business account and had significant problems with hardware limitations, rampant virus infections in their network, and poor customer service. I hear they have made technical improvements since then, but I don't know since he dropped them after about about a year. |
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  G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17 Schenectady, NY
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Unfair? How?
This is a comparison of broadband providers. Directway IS available anyplace cable modems/dsl is available, so needs to be compared to them.
i.e. I can get cable/dsl or directway where I am. After reading this article, I would never even consider directway over the other options. It IS a bashing of directway, but it's correct for two reasons:
#1: If you have a choice between directway and cable or dsl, you would be a fool to choose directway
#2: Just because directway is your only choice, doesn't mean that it still doesn't suck.
bottom line: directway sucks. sure, sometimes it's the least suckiest option of sucky options, but it still sucks. The fact remains, it sucks, and the review is fair in saying that it sucks. Complaining that it's unfair doesn't change the fact that it sucks. -- Grand Poobah |
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| reply to djrobx Re: Weak article
said by djrobx :It's hard to take any article seriously that has this: quote: For the best values in broadband service: 11 SBC Yahoo 12 Verizon Theres a good likelihood that one or both of these DSL services are available where you live.
One or BOTH? I don't think I've ever seen a location where BOTH were available! This is why I stopped reading Consumer Reports. Any time I've read one of their reviews on a suject I knew something about, it has been so riddled with inaccuracies that I've found the article useless. I gave up on them years ago. -- That which does not kill me merely prolongs the agony. |
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