nozzer
join:2004-06-25
Waltham, MA | Minutes rather than revenue?
I wonder what share of the total minutes though? |
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cooperaaaron
join:2004-04-10
Joliet, IL | I am one...
of those users !:D |
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UnionJax
join:2002-09-25
Richmond, IN | Vonage User
I love Vonage, so cheap, and so many features that I didn't have with Verizon. Even had to call 911 two nights ago and got straight through with no hassle. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
 ·QuantumVoice
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | Bells
Maybe this is a wake up call to the bells. Maybe bellsouth would get off there AZZ and do something like more dsl or fois.
I know where i live in this small town that bellsouth has lost some 6000 people to time warner and going up everyday.
I used to work for TW cable maybe they want to be there own bell tho it piggybacks off of MCI..lol  :D:D:D
Edit i have 2 vonage lines and TW still cant beat Vonage in price or features. |
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refreshme
@optonline.net
| when was the last time that vonage employee came to your house to make whole house wiring or even disco cables from main line?Oh wait. They don't do that. You are on your own. I understand that some BBR readers know enough to do it on their own, but 95% of others don't. So if you count it all in perspective, you can't get much with vonage and all of their features pale in comparison to simple old line. TW will at least rewire your house. Vonage won't. try to reach vonage tech and if you spend less than 1 hour, you are lucky. I agree VOIP is the way of the future, but it is not the way with companies like Vonage. When Bells enter VOIP with full force, then it will be that way it is supposed to be. My view of voip is close to one offered by cableco where voip replaces traditional line not one by vonage where you must run multiple splitters to connect all phones in your house. |
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kdandaoc
join:2003-10-13
608052427
| bait and switch
Any improvement you see to phne service or to your bill will only be mitigated in the long run once the carrier becomes a major player. This happens time and time again, so enjoy while you can; before the outtages come, the taxman arrives, or you have to call your indian or pakistani technician |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to refreshme
Re: Bells
i know i shouldnt feed the trolls but..
All you have to do is run a main wire like i did from the PAP2 to the phone box outside. Disconnect the bells and put yours in place of the bells and bang all of 6 phones ring and no splitters. Shows how little you know about wiring.
As for Tech support i have never had to call them. I have called sales and they where the best. Better than Tw CSR who dont know what they are talking about. |
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DreamWraith
Premium
join:2004-04-07
Mount Vernon, WA
| reply to refreshme
are you a VOIP user? you sure dont seem like it, you make it out to be a hundred times more complicated than it is. my mother, who can barely use a mouse was able to set up her own VOIP. Oh, and did i mention it took five minutes to hook it into the existing house wiring, withou using any splitter? |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
1 edit | i have two vonage lines hard wired into the house. If you can read i am using a PAP2 so i think thats voip last time i checked.
Edit myself: only if your talking about my last post does this apply..lol |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| reply to refreshme
said by refreshme:
When Bells enter VOIP with full force, then it will be that way it is supposed to be. What way would that be? Overpriced? Less features? Pay a fee for every phone/VOIP router?
What's even harder to believe is that you believe the bells need to enter the VOIP landscape at all. The bells don't need a different transport to provide the same service. They have a great network that isn't built around VOIP but they charge too damn much for it.
Right now they could restructure, drop the price of their existing analog service and drive VOIP from the market. I can't think of any good reason why the incumbent LECs cannot offer $19.95/month telephone service with free long distance and every bell-and-whistle feature. Why would anyone bother with VOIP? It's less reliable. It goes out when your Internet connection goes out. 911 might work. Why would I want VOIP if I could get a better service for the same money from the ILECs?
I also think 95% don't know how to hook it up is more like 25% who don't know. As older, less technological savvy generations pass, that number will eventually dwindle to 2%.
What's really changed about the standard HTTP browser in the past 10 years? Is it easier today than it was then or have people adapted? (There's certainly more risk today but have we really changed the "http://www.xyz.com" address format and how it all works?) I think most folks have adapted just like they'll adapt to the wiring difficulties of VOIP. |
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DreamWraith
Premium
join:2004-04-07
Mount Vernon, WA | reply to hayabusa3303
i wasnt replying to you actually. must have been some weird forum glitch, where you posted right before me. was replying to the person above you. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | It does happen why i put my edit in there. I was confused!!its all good. |
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DaDogs
Semper Vigilantis
Premium
join:2004-02-28
Deltaville, VA
1 edit | ... and the 400+ percent growth rate terrifies ...
the baby bells.
2004 = 440,000
2005 = 2,700,000
2006 = 16,560,000
2008 = 101,000,000
Admittedly it won't continue at that rate but at even one sixth of that rate they are scared sheitless.
Kinda explains their agressive behaviours of late, doesn't it?
... and you thought Vonage outages had nothing to do with industrial espionage ...
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Improve your wireless signal! |
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Kizaki
join:2000-05-19
Fort Myers, FL
| reply to rradina
Re: Bells
The problem is the taxes the government forces people to pay when using this line. Its all politically annoying, but what are you going to do. From what I understand so far, by using VOIP they can doge these taxes. Thank the politicians not the phone companies |
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BeechDog
@comcast.net | A silly question....
for all you bellco shills out there.
If Sun Rocket set up a gas station and started selling gasoline for 25¢ a gallon, would YOU still buy that $3/gallon stuff from the ILEC stations? |
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gonenuts1579
join:2003-06-12
Malone, NY
| Time Warner
With Time Warner being second in subscribers, it just shows there is a sucker born every minute. Who in their right mind would choose Time Warner? It's overpriced, and lacks features. Woohoo, it comes with a battery backup.... I'll stick with Callvantage, a perfect balance of price, features, and reliability. |
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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | reply to BeechDog
Re: A silly question....
It would be sweet if someone came up with an alternative liquid fuel that was not based off oil, that would work in all existing vehicles. Maybe sell if for $1.00 a gallon.
(sigh) |
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bsddaemon
join:2001-12-22
Dayton, OH | reply to gonenuts1579
Re: Time Warner
Time Warner is not true VOIP is it. They came and installed it in my friends house and he needed to have a regular phone jack in the wall. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| People say it is and some people say its not. TW phone runs on the same bandwidth as road runner does. Roadrunner goes down so does the phones. Let you be the judge on that one.
As for them installing it i have seen a few where the person had no phone jacks. The tech simply connected the phone into the modem and away you go. No hard wiring needed. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Pz_
Re: A silly question....
if you have a diesel fuel engine there are any way to convert the engine over and get the fuel for free. Mcdonald's, Wendys and Bk will give you the oil you just clean it which is done by machine only costs 2000 bucks. hey free fuel.
As for gasoline engines you can use propane but the price of lpg is sky high right now. |
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