owenhome
keeper of the magic blue smoke
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join:2002-07-13
Bentonville, AR | Threat?
Yeah, a threat to the airport's financial security! |
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rileyjam514
There You Go Again...
join:2005-06-26
Kearny, NJ | OK.. huh?
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Ok maybe it does. I mean, government is supposed to solve everything, even provide taxed wireless internet and smash the evil free market goons who eat babies for breakfast. |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | reply to owenhome
Re: Threat?
Yeah if we can get it "free" why would they pay for our service i want to complain about this to someone and put it better terms now airport security now thats a good debate to tie this in with! |
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lazsheriff
Laz
join:2005-01-03
Fort Lauderdale, FL | ....
I'm so sure Free Wi-Fi is at the top of the list of biggest threats to an airport. |
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Marco2005
@rr.com
| Wireless security is there really such a thing?
I think the security measures that you can implement on wireless equipment can only result in slowing down an intruders access to your network.
If you are going to install wireless for people to use make sure it is on its own separate network. |
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netddos
Life Goes On..
join:2001-08-28
Fullerton, CA | reply to owenhome
Treat my a$$...
Oh yea..feed wifi will not be a threat whereas free wifi will. I never knew money can make wifi technology impenetrable. Amazing!
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | Hold a Ticket, Get Free Wifi
Maybe they can make it that the user must input their ticket # and flight details for free access ? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| It's Logan...
Logan, or the Airport, can certainly make all the rules they want for the Airlines to follow, it's called a lease.
If they wanted to forbid airlines from giving their passengers free softdrinks in the concources as well, they can certainly restrict that as well.
Besides, Logan makes money from passengers and what they purcahse as they pass through. If airlines start giving away potential revenue streams.... get it? Besides, Continental Airlines can offer wired service for their passengers in their lounge, if they have one. But again, it all will boil down to what they can and can't do in the airport based on their agreement.
Sorry, but in my book, Logan wins. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
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"Massport told the airline it could route its wireless signals over Logan's Wi-Fi signal, at a "very reasonable rate structure." In response, however, Continental said using Logan's Wi-Fi vendor could force the airline to start charging its customers for the service."
Massport is attempting to change the terms of Continental's lease after-the-fact. What a laughable bunch of morons.
Logan has far more serious problems than Continental's lounge customers getting a WiFi freebie..
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| said by RadioDoc  :" Massport told the airline it could route its wireless signals over Logan's Wi-Fi signal, at a "very reasonable rate structure." In response, however, Continental said using Logan's Wi-Fi vendor could force the airline to start charging its customers for the service."Massport is attempting to change the terms of Continental's lease after-the-fact. What a laughable bunch of morons. Logan has far more serious problems than Continental's lounge customers getting a WiFi freebie.. Yeah like doing the windows on every house around the airport because of the noise from the jets. Every 5 or so years like clock work 
On a funny note a cantenna can pick up their signal from almost 5 miles away. ( coffee can )
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BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
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Re: Airport security sucks
Airport security sucks. For anyone not familiar with the what goes on at an airport security check, it's where you're harassed by balding, middle-aged men and women with yellow armpit stains. They'll submit you to rigorous interrogation by asking you questions to ensure that you're not a terrorist plotting to blow up the airplane (because that's what all terrorists do). Some of the questions you might be asked
# Have you received any packages from strangers?
# Did you pack your own luggage?
# Was your luggage in your posession at all times?
That last question gets me every time. I have a bad habit of leaving my luggage with unscrupulous looking strangers so my shit gets stolen before I go on my trip. Please. What's the point of asking these questions? Anyone planning on blowing up an airplane probably isn't going to be honest enough to answer these questions truthfully in the first place. Even if the terrorists were dumb enough to answer these questions truthfully, chances are that they'd be too damn stupid to pull off the crime anyway! What the hell is the point?
I was carrying a box through the security check point at LAX the other day, when I was suddenly stopped by an officer that asked me what was in my box. I told him "a doll" and he took my word for it, letting me pass through. If he was going to take my word for it anyway, then what the hell was the point of asking? I could have said shoes, clothes, or even a good Smashing Pumpkins album (if one existed). Does he hope that by asking enough stupid questions that eventually a terrorist would slip up and say "a bomb," at which point officer dipshit would arrest him or her? Morons.
»maddox.xmission.com/airport.html |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | Not like it was down in houston my father went to las vegas and they basically had a bomb/drug sniffer dog on every part on him and ran him through metal detector 3 times and checked his bags by opening and and looking around. |
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123abcff
@bellsouth.net
| reply to RadioDoc
So here's the thing...
I was in some airport (forget which, I think atlanta) and they had the fee based wireless setup but I was sitting in a terminal that was outside of the Continental Presidents room and was able to use their free wireless (even though I wasn't a member, it let me sign on, no security/login/etc).
Whoopie for me. Keep in mind, the range really isn't all that far and there are rarely any outlets for power anyway. Typically only a few silver/gold continental travelers would benefit (and maybe a few savy users in the one or two gates close by), the other >90% of the people in the airport would be out of range to make use of it. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
1 edit | reply to fiberguy
Re: It's Logan...
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Sorry, but in my book, Logan wins.
That "book" ain't worth very much.
The FCC is the sole regulator of non-U.S. Goverment use of the radio spectrum. Congress said so in the Communications Act of 1934, and again in 1996. Wi-Fi operates on C.F.R. 47 Part 15 as unlicensed, "free for all" spectrum; i.e., you can use it on a non-exclusive basis, but you have no protection from interference from other users.
Especially considering it is a branch of local government, Federal law pre-empts any rules Logan airport may try to impose. This is no different than the case of public univesities that tried, and failed to "regulate" Wi-Fi AP's in their dorms.
If Logan wants to offer a paid service that is not subject to interference, then they can buy a license in another part of the spectrum at auction, and offer the service. Oh yea, they need to convince laptop manufacturers to build in radios for the service. I wish them luck. |
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| reply to BIGMIKE
Re: Airport security sucks
said by BIGMIKE :# Have you received any packages from strangers? # Did you pack your own luggage? # Was your luggage in your posession at all times? Technically, these questions are asked to prove guilt, should they find something. Much like the police looking at the gun in your hand and saying "is that yours?" Answering yes proves is it, and when tests show it to be the murder weapon, you can't claim it isn't yours.
Has your luggage been in your possession the entire time? Yes? Ok well then the knife that is in it must have been put there by you.
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richk_1957
If ..Then..Else
Premium
join:2001-04-11
Minas Tirith
| Huh?
In an earlier article, Logan says that Continental's free WiFi is interfering with Aircraft electronics. Then, in the same paragraph, it says it offers WiFi at $7.95. Continental's is interfering and their is not.
The only thing Continental is 'interfering' with is Logan's income.
Too Bad |
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zoom314
Superman
Premium
join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
| reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: * ding *
said by BosstonesOwn :said by RadioDoc :" Massport told the airline it could route its wireless signals over Logan's Wi-Fi signal, at a "very reasonable rate structure." In response, however, Continental said using Logan's Wi-Fi vendor could force the airline to start charging its customers for the service."Massport is attempting to change the terms of Continental's lease after-the-fact. What a laughable bunch of morons. Logan has far more serious problems than Continental's lounge customers getting a WiFi freebie.. Yeah like doing the windows on every house around the airport because of the noise from the jets. Every 5 or so years like clock work On a funny note a cantenna can pick up their signal from almost 5 miles away. ( coffee can ) Oh wow, Now there's a national security threat, Just like taking photos of trains can get one hassled by the cops. 
Logan Airport and MTA can shuck It, Go Continental!:D
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
 ·voip.ms
·RoadRunner Cable
| I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.
Yeah, right. If some bad person needs to use the internet to do something really bad, do you think having to pay for it will stop them? Are paying internet users more safe than non-paying users?
On 9/11, all the hijackers did pay for their tickets. Kind of hard to try and hijack a plane without a ticket. That said, a bad-guy needing to pay $7.95 to do something bad isn't going to stop him. Logan Airport just wants revenue. Plain and simple. |
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pende_tim
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join:2004-01-04
Andover, NJ
·ProLog
·ViaTalk
·Verizon Online DSL
| Not a Problem In EWR,, ATL ,ORD,etc
I have used the President's club free Wi-Fi in many of Continental's clubs. It seems to co-exist with the paid services in the terminals quite well in all other Airports.
Logan is obviously trying to get some more money for the MTA to pay for the cost overruns on the Big Dig. Lets see, it should only take about 2.4*10^9 paying customers before they get enough money.;)
What's next: they wont be able to serve free wine, beer and spirits because it competes with the vendors in the concourse?
I feel the WiFi and other amenities are not "free". I pay for them as part of my membership dues to the Club.
Tim |
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Harddrive
Premium
join:2000-09-20
Norwich, CT | reply to owenhome
Re: Threat?
Typical Mass-holes. |
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