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Comments on news posted 2005-07-23 10:00:00: Microsoft has apparently tried to patent the idea of custom emoticons, according to ZDNet & Slashdot (see the patent). ..

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jaorgeron

join:2003-11-13
Kenner, LA
Well do you blame them

Look how everyone else is trying to do the something with other silly patents. Microsoft is just trying to save themselves money


MikegotOOL

join:2001-01-21
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Next they'll try to patent e-toilet paper.


click_310
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Savannah, GA

said by MikegotOOL See Profile:

Next they'll try to patent e-toilet paper.
They'll have to patent the,"Virtual Ass" first.

DprssdIsntFn
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reply to jaorgeron
Actually ... yes.

Stealing IP and then paying for it under court order is standard procedure for Microsoft. I've long since lost track of the number of cases they've lost and then settled.

They are the worst offenders.


Smitedogg
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said by MikegotOOL See Profile:

Next they'll try to patent e-toilet paper.
One-Pass Wiping


john Qwest

join:2002-05-24
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Microsoft Patents Custom Emoticons

I recall that this is one that will fall due to "prior art", as I believe they have been use since T.T.Y.
What about the good old yellow Smiled face of the 60's.

Have a Nice Day :P


ET TU
Its' Only Temp
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Better hurry-up

Better hurry-up patent our ass's

dave
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Re: Microsoft Patents Custom Emoticons

said by john Qwest See Profile:

I recall that this is one that will fall due to "prior art", as I believe they have been use since T.T.Y.
You didn't read the patent, did you?

They're not patenting 'emoticons', they're patenting a particular method for handling user-customized emoticons.

With such a system, I could define a new emoticon right now (say, something to say 'you completely missed the point'), and include it inline in this message. Thereafter, it would have been given a name such that I could refer to it by name in future, rather than having to respecify the image every time, and readers would simply see the image.

It may be that prior art exists for this, I'm not well-versed enough to know. But we weren't doing it on ASR33 teletypes, that's for sure.

(My opinion: allowing easily-customizable emoticons will knock a few more IQ points off an already-dangerously-illiterate public.)


pokesph
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Pirate

OMG I'm a prirate now © 2005 Microsoft so now every time we use a emoticon © 2005 Microsoft we're ripping off M$
? YAY © 2005 Microsoft

well I guess i've entered the dark ages again.. © 2005 Microsoft

© 2005 Microsoft sad world we live in...
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richk_1957
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They've GOT to be kidding!

Even before computers, there was the smiley face. The came tty and first emoticons. I remember back in the '80s my office had a Telex machine and most of the messages came in with emoticons, the most popular ones being and . When I got my home PC in 1995, I downloaded a file of over 500 assorted ones. There are custom ones out there to describe just about every situation. People come up with them and sometimes they last and sometimes they don't. I remember a whole group of ones that described beards - they didn't last too long.

And now @#$%^&* Microsoft wants to copyright them???

What's next?


dadkins
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Patent This!

LOL!
©Yo Mama


Steve
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Re: They've GOT to be kidding!

said by richk_1957 See Profile:

And now @#$%^&* Microsoft wants to copyright them???
You not only didn't read the patent, but you also don't know the difference between patents and copyrights.
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dave
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Microsoft is not the problem

It needs to be said: the problem is not that Evil Microsoft wants to patent every idea in sight. The problem is how the patent system works with respect to software.

If you're playing a game where the rules are such that, if you buy property you land on, then it has the dual benefits of allowing you to collect money from other players while preventing them from using the property to collect rent from you, then you'd have to be pretty silly to try and win the game without buying a certain amount of property.

If you don't like the way the game works, then it's kind of fruitless to point out that the other players are playing by the rules. You need to get the rules changed.

dave
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reply to pokesph
Re: Pirate

Someone else who didn't read the patent ...


Steve
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reply to dave
Re: Microsoft is not the problem

said by dave See Profile:

It needs to be said: the problem is not that Evil Microsoft wants to patent every idea in sight. The problem is how the patent system works with respect to software.
There's actually a middle ground here where one might actually find Microsoft evil: whether this is a defensive or an offensive patent.

"Offensive" patents are where you patent the thing in question and then go after others for using it. This is the reason that everybody assumes you patent something for, but it's not.

"Defensive" patents are used strictly to deflect attacks by others, and to trade when settling a patent dispute. They're never used to go after other.

I have a customer who's in an industry dominated by huge corporations with enormous patent portfolios, and everybody involved patents everything in sight. My customer hates it, has never gone after anybody, but he needs these in his quiver should the big guys decide to go after him. When this happens, he pulls out his patents, they cross-license, and go away.

So the question is whether Microsoft actually goes after anybody for violating these patents, or if they use them strictly to defend themselves.

Steve
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richk_1957
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reply to Steve
Re: They've GOT to be kidding!

wrong

I did read the patent

They are patenting either using character sequences, such as a colon [:] and a right bracket [)] as a smiley face, or to have the same sequence replaced by a image, such as on the receiver of the text.

And yes, you are right, I did use the word copyright, instead of patent. That is my mistake


storm64007
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reply to dadkins
Re: Patent This!



pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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Pirate

heh.. i was just poking fun.. geeze get over it..


jmorlan
Hmm... That's funny.
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I can't view the patent

The images in the patent don't show up for me. I see a QuickTime logo which immediately disappears. It's the same in both Firefox and IE. I have disabled all popup blockers. I tried uninstalling and re-installing QuickTime. Nothing works.

Any suggestions?

TIA.


whogivesaratsass

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Patents and MicroSquash

WTF, do i care! answer hell no go away with this crap of a news story. move on get a life, take a breath of fresh, non polluted microsquash air........

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