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Comments on news posted 2005-07-07 15:05:23: ADSL2+? VDSL2? Fiber to the Curb? Fiber to the Home? DOCSIS 3.0? It's hard to get to the truth behind the constant stream of belligerently optimistic press releases. ..

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TKJunkMail
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 Great interview with insight to the near future

A lot of good information there. It looks like Verizon and Comcast, at least in Southern NJ, are going to be the main players in broadband for both TV and internet access. It looks good for continued speed increases on the internet and a wide variety of TV options for a while. But I doubt any of this competition will result in lower prices - too bad.

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OscarMeyer

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Hey,Cut me a slice

....Of that baloney! The competition is so grand that's why I only have one broadband option. .....And paying $60/month for the privilige!


DaneJasper
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Wow, thanks Dan and Karl!

Very comprehensive and well informed - thanks Dan for cutting through the press releases and giving us such a nice overview!

-Dane Jasper


DHRacer
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"Amreica" is Great for Broadband

And I love being among other "Amreicans"

We can't spell our own country but we'd sure like to tell you how to run yours!

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biochemistry

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Re: Great interview with insight to the near futur

How much bandwidth is required for cable companies to transmit their cable channels and how much bandwidth is Verizon planning on with fiber to match the number of TV stations that cable provides?


clickwir

join:2001-06-21
Dickson City, PA

Not FIOS?

Not FIOS = no care!

Bring me FIOS. Nothing but FIOS.

I have cable right now, they want to upgrade the speeds that's fine. But it doesn't really matter. When FIOS is avaliable, I'm switching.

New connections should be FTTH (aka FTTP). Nothing but full fiber right to my house. I will not accecpt another copper 'upgrade'. The next upgrade will be to fiber. If you are not offering FTTH, get off the boat now.


techjoe
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Some things are clear. Wireless can be very cheap (if slow and not rock-solid reliable)
So can DSL, cable, and cars. Not quite sure where he was going with that remark.
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bokamba
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One thing is clear...

From a technical perspective, Verizon is leapfrogging everyone else. In the long term, their fiber-to-the-home will be able to outperform all the existing networks and the fiber-to-the-node that SBC is doing.


DaSneaky1D
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Verizon's only competition will be cable ISP's. Cable has the bandwidth (capability, and coming technology) to stay in the game for video and HSI. It's just really sad to see SBC take their approach to upgrading their network.
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reply to biochemistry
Re: Great interview with insight to the near futur

said by biochemistry See Profile:

How much bandwidth is required for cable companies to transmit their cable channels
It depends on how the network is setup. You have to know whether the system is 450Mhz, 550mhz, 750mhz, or 860mhz. Then you need to find out how many are analog and how many are digital, and whether they are 64QAM digital channels or 256QAM channels. Then crunch the numbers. Last time I played around with some numbers a full 860mhz system could have 5Gbps total capacity pushing though the network at any given time.


neosolace
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always lagging.....

hmmm....I get the feeling that by the time I manage to scrounge a screaming fast 1.5 meg connection in ruralia, I may be even further behind than i am now! WOOHOO!

Guys.....I think I'm gonna go bang my head on the wall for a while just to make myself feel better.:(


insomniac
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Re: One thing is clear...

said by DaSneaky1D See Profile:

It's just really sad to see SBC take their approach to upgrading their network.
If this article is accurate, I agree. "Fiber to the press release" seems to sum it up well. And the fact that this is why they've essentially stopped lighting additional RTs for DSL... I had higher expectations.
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bigdaddy17

join:2003-05-08
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IFITL?

So it says here that BellSouths 1/10 fiber customers are possibly getting 50mbps+ or VDSL2? sweet bring it on!

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
great interview

Dave has great insights and information; unfortunately most of what he says just makes me sad (and pissed off at our government) about the current state of broadband in the U.S.


jap
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said by techjoe See Profile:

Not quite sure where he was going with that remark.
I took it to be a comment on the inherent instability of RF, not the human management or implementation factors that, as you say, can FUBAR any form of technology.


DaSneaky1D
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Re: One thing is clear...

What's even more sad, just because you have DSL available doesn't mean it's worth getting. I had DSL for nearly 3 years, but my line distance was too long and a slight breeze caused sync loss. In the end, my service was basically 768k/300k.

If Dave called DSL "low speed DSL", then I had "low speed, low speed DSL" compared to what I can look forward to from cable providers. SBC didn't upgrade my neighborhood for more stable service back then, and I sure don't expect them to in the future.
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jap
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thanks

Good news bit & interview. Thank you.


Phoenix2088

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Re: IFITL?

That 50 mbps + will be shared between video and internet. At least it will be better than what SBC will be offering around here.

Eric Martin

join:2005-06-19
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Muni

Nothing on FTTH muni broadband.

I don't like the private companies rolling it out little by little , speed increment only matching a competitor.

Way too slow.


AthlGrond
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 What No Qwest?

Gee I wonder why Qwest didn't get a mention...
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