hroo772
Darkness Fears Me
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Mclean, VA
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master1000
join:2001-02-22
Fort Pierre, SD | ONE WORD
JUNK |
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BarneyBadAss
Badasses Fight For Freedom
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| Isn't this a fine kettle o' fish?
Well... considering the majority of the folks I know don't use mSN or anything of M$ that you must pay for execpt the os and perhaps M$ office.... I guess they need to find a way to force us to use some of the bizar poducts.
All I can see is this is likely to force the spyware / malware / jokers to have write complicated code to look at your hardware and pick it apart.
So far you can count me outa this.
Buzzz.... Wrong Answer; Wrong Soloution.
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RomanySaad
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Lancaster, CA
1 edit |  Finally!
said by TFA:
Administrator access can be granted with Longhorn, but local access only will be the default.
How long did that idea take?
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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Re: Isn't this a fine kettle o' fish?
said by BarneyBadAss  :Well... considering the majority of the folks I know don't use mSN or anything of M$ that you must pay for execpt the os and perhaps M$ office.... I guess they need to find a way to force us to use some of the bizar poducts. All I can see is this is likely to force the spyware / malware / jokers to have write complicated code to look at your hardware and pick it apart. So far you can count me outa this. Buzzz.... Wrong Answer; Wrong Soloution. ---Barney What are you talking about? You don't have to use their add-on software.
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8toushin
| microsoft isn't that bad
When I installed Linux it asked me for my credit card number. Two days later I got a call from Wachovia asking me if I had purchased $400 worth of Totino's pizza rolls and Mountain Dew (I hadn't). Let this be a warning to all of you out there in the Internet. |
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TKJunkMail
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|  Good step to take; but complainers won't be happy
This is a good step for Microsoft and for users. But it will make a lot of software harder to install for the non-technical user. Or the instructions for the software will tell the users to put the system in Administrative mode. Ultimately, no matter how hard you try, there is no protection from stupid users and from 3rd party vendors that will use shortcuts on installations to make things easier for their support staff. How many 3rd party software companies will want to walk stupid users thru a complicated process to just install their products.
At least it will make the system even safer for those users who are technically adept.
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Rob
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| My concern is piracy..
It's no secret that Windows OS is probably one of the most pirated softwares out there. My concern is that users who have pirated operating systems will not opt to use their "Onecare" software in fear of being arrested, and Microsoft would probably not allow pirated companies to install and subscribe to "Onecare".
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Rob
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Re: Good step to take; but complainers won't be ha
I rather let them get tired and not install the software, than install some fully loaded spyware program that will screw their computer up.
No matter how you look at it, the non-technical people will always blame Microsoft for problems, even when it's not an OS issue (but a user error).
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
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Re: microsoft isn't that bad
said by 8toushin:
When I installed Linux it asked me for my credit card number. Two days later I got a call from Wachovia asking me if I had purchased $400 worth of Totino's pizza rolls and Mountain Dew (I hadn't). Let this be a warning to all of you out there in the Internet.
Which linux was this that asked for a credit card? That's news to me.
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krobar
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join:2002-09-15
Columbus, OH | 99% probability of that being a joke.
In other news, did you know that 'gullible' isn't on dictionary.com?
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Mr_Stealth
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| said by krobar :In other news, did you know that 'gullible' isn't on dictionary.com? Wow, it really isn't on there.
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Re: SAY NO....
Microsoft's next OS, code-named Longhorn, "places great emphasis on locking down PCs to prevent unauthorised access to hardware and software"...
this is funny, microsoft can't put trust in the general public with their computer literacy level, you know, kind of like mcdonalds saying "HOT COFFEE" but go ahead & take a big drink... |
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redxii
too big to fail
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join:2001-02-26
Texas | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Good step to take; but complainers won't be happy
Tough luck for the inept users. It's a vicious cycle:
|-> It's so convenient, it's not secure -> it's secure, but it's not convenient |
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danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
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Re: My concern is piracy..
"My concern is that users who have pirated operating systems will not opt to use their "Onecare" software in fear of being arrested, and Microsoft would probably not allow pirated companies to install and subscribe to "Onecare"."
Pfff. Trust me, the people fluent enough in technology to actually successfully pirate an OS and use it aren't the kind of people who would use any subscription service from MS anyway. They'll either pirate some other AV solution, or use freeware. I have a very legitimate, paid copy of Windows XP Home. When Longhorn comes out, I can tell you I won't be getting a subscription to any AV, let alone this OneCare crap:
"Windows OneCare automatically takes care of key tasks such as running antivirus scans, updating the antivirus engine and virus definitions, updating the firewall, and running a monthly PC tune-up to improve and maintain your computer's performance."
This is *exactly* the kind of thing I *don't* want. Automatic anything gets shut off on my machine. It's just a personal thing, perhaps, but I've found that things that auto-update themselves tend to cause more hassles then problems. Not all upgrades are good, not all patches are bug free, and I prefer the option of installing something over having it done for me. I don't need Microsoft + OneCare babysitting for me. Now, if this OneCare allows for the option of turning off the automation, fine. I still wouldn't *pay* for it, because most of it is the kind of stuff I can already do with freeware or do myself. But if it doesn't allow for automation turnoff (as has seemed to become a recent trend in a lot of security software I've looked at) then I, and many of the computer users that I know, wouldn't have much of a use for it anyway.
The average user isn't the type of person who pirates an OS. OneCare is targeting the so-called "dumb users" who prefer to just turn on their machine and have it work for them without them having to do anything. Will they pay? Maybe. They also seem to be the users who install anything that pops up on the screen, and thus, suffer most from the viruses. The OS piraters I know are usually smarter users than those people, and as such, don't get infected to the degree those people do. But just based on the description, OneCare isn't something that I would recommend to anyone, in the same way that I avoid recommending certain firewall and AV products. |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | I think its gonna be only for there gateway systems only |
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AnnaS8
join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD
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Re: Good step to take; but complainers won't be ha
Things that make you go Hmmmm...M$ makes their OS harder for adware and spyware and also is rumored to be in talks with Claria(Gator) to purchase the company. Hmmmm! 
If I didn't know better it sounds to me like M$ is attempting to lock out the competition and make way for their own software. Nahhh! They wouldn't do that. |
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA
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Re: ONE WORD
Microsoft is patting itself on the back over this OS.? I on the utter hand will be giving M$ and longhorn,which I personally dubbed "soo long horn" buh bye.A swift kick in the azz and out the door.I hope the price is double-triple the $$$ of Xpee.So sales falls through the hole in the bottom of the barrel.
MS could not pay me enough $$ to install and use sh*t like that.For a couple million I will maybe
most likely THINK about it,and that's all I will do.
The working class have less and less control over their daily lives as it is.M$ is going to peddle a big stinking,heaping pile of shit called soo long horn to the computer users.Nooo thanks M$ stick it up yer...Don't need you.
Helloooo linux you sexy OS.Who's yer daddy you look so sleek and slim,Who loves ya baby? 
BTW: I'm downloading a linux distro on a windeerz PC.The sweet smell of irony is in the air.Yes my copy of Windoesn't is legit. |
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redxii
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Fatal Vector
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Re: microsoft isn't that bad
And you actually gave it your card number? DUHHHHH. |
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