taar
join:2000-11-21 | Wow!
SBC is truly going all out. I hope management knows what they are doing..... |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| said by taar  :SBC is truly going all out. I hope management knows what they are doing..... Sorry, but this sounds like a sign of weakness.
I know Comcast has a good offer for dish customers, and does have some specials for new customers, but SBC is digging in deep and doing a lot WAY too fast.
To some customers, this may sound like a great deal, but to a lot of other consumers and investors alike, this would look like desperation in my opinion. |
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moby866
Premium
join:2000-10-07
Above you
 ·surpasshosting
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Vonage
·CableOne
| Great idea
But since they cannot get DSL to all parts of the city I live in and Comcast can get HSI, I don't think that I will be moving over to SBC anytime soon. Especially since I cut my landline and went with Vonage.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
| reply to fiberguy
Re: Wow!
Your right fiberguy.
On the heels of the FCC decision..
It's evident that they need more market share and here (CT) they think they can get people to switch from OOL to SBC. At least in my area.. I've know 2 people that switched from OOL to SBC but it was because of cash flow issues.
They (telco) have an inferior product no matter how they hype it. Compared to OOL's speed it's complete garbage! |
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Allard47
join:2005-06-23
Henderson, NV | Deltathree should benefit from SBC moves
Deltathree (DDDC) is under contract to run SBC's VoIP. Today DDDC announced greatly expanded coverage of the USA, via Level 3 lines. |
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Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping
join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI
 ·AT&T Midwest
2 edits |  reply to moby866
Re: Great idea
I think this is great.
SBC is way better than the Charter we have here.
As with everything some places it will be better and some not.
I like the competition....
edit: from the SBC | DISH Network Digital Home Advantage Plan Promotional Terms and Conditions:
"Offer available through 6/30/05 to new SBC DISH Network residential"
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B777300
join:2002-01-02
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Re: Wow!
said by packetscan : cash flow issues. They (telco) have an inferior product no matter how they hype it. Compared to OOL's speed it's complete garbage! Compare it to anything in SBC but speed and OOL is complete garbage.
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blacksurfer
join:2002-07-14
Sherman Oaks, CA | reply to taar
What's the price after the free three months? And what if you only have cable internet and have satellite already? |
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JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA
| reply to Allard47
Re: Deltathree should benefit from SBC moves
I am with Comcast and have the pro package 6/768 and I would try anything availabe at this time other than Comcast. you guys should check out the forums for Comcast. After 6-9:00pm, forget it.If your a gamer?  Sorry, you lose.Latency has been really bad the past few months for everyone with ping times anywhere hitting as high as 300ms some at times seeing 900ms then settles down around 2:00am
I think the best thing to do when looking for a different ISP is read through there forums at what people have to say about them. My connection was better when I was at 1.5/128 No joke. |
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DsXsD
I'M A Member
join:2002-08-28
San Gabriel, CA
|  alternative view
there are pros and cons to all issues like this.. a bold or ridiculous move like this for SBC (depending on how you view it), will effect many, including consumer and investors and SBC itself. my perspective as the general public is as follows: 1) SBC's decision to drag cable customers ATM is not a bad step to take for what they can for now. As the portion of a customer switching over, hooked by a deep promotion like this, will be less resistance to change again should their SBC's CUSTOMER SERVICE ever improves. 2) like with all decisions, there are always certain risk involves. it's the matter of which decision involves more risks that the company assess. SBC took a gamble here and from what i can see lots of heads are already turning so if within a 3 mo period SBC sees a substantial addition to it's subscriber, then investor will be worry-free and that is what i think the outcome would be. as more moving the deals and pushing the belly buttons of the cable giants.. nah.. i don't think it's fast.. i think it's perfect after the recent cable ruling.. if we hold back any longer we'll be like our ranking in the DSL world.. fall on top of our heels. |
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anonpronman
@dsl.net
| reply to B777300
Re: Wow!
What?
Customer service my experience with sbc has been hellish.
Customer service my experience with ool has been stellar.
Billing - SBC (double bill, charge for services not ordered, uncontrolled third party billing.)
Billing - OOL ( Never had an issue ). |
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rahulruna
join:2003-06-12
Rancho Cordova, CA
| reply to JerryTongue
Re: Deltathree should benefit from SBC moves
said by JerryTongue :I am with Comcast and have the pro package 6/768 and I would try anything availabe at this time other than Comcast. you guys should check out the forums for Comcast. After 6-9:00pm, forget it.If your a gamer? Sorry, you lose.Latency has been really bad the past few months for everyone with ping times anywhere hitting as high as 300ms some at times seeing 900ms then settles down around 2:00am I think the best thing to do when looking for a different ISP is read through there forums at what people have to say about them. My connection was better when I was at 1.5/128 No joke. I completely agree. I switched to COMCAST with an intention to utilize my Sunrocket connection and dump sbc altogether. I was getting 4/384 in COMCAST (actually 3.8/320) ... but latency really killed the VOIP. QOS in best time is around 50%. In SBC 3/512 (2.4/420 actual) qos is around 97% ... makes things way different. I think cable is just not ready for voip yet. |
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ashworth
join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to fiberguy
Re: Wow!
Your comments are so true "SBC is digging in deep and doing a lot WAY too fast." They are going to take a hit in profits for the quarter and hope to retain these customers over time. That's the key - the large telcos and cablecos realize that snaring and retaining is the root to true profits. Why they feel they need to take such drastic measures at this time is beyond me ??? |
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noogoo
join:2005-06-27 | reply to fiberguy
"SBC is digging in deep and doing a lot WAY too fast"
a lot way too fast is ok with me. you hear taht verizon dsl and fios?!!!!?!!??
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sapo
I eat meat
Premium
join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA | reply to JerryTongue
Re: Deltathree should benefit from SBC moves
30 to 50 MS average here... you probably have a overloaded node call them and find out, you may receive a discount.
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JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA
| I kinda understand how that stuff works as far as how many people in your area on at any given time, thing is though
the reason I never put to much thought into that is because we are out in the sticks were everyone has close to 5 acres so population isn't that dense. But could the
node be old and them thinking because of our population we don't need something strong? Couple house here and there and Bam, full? How many is the norm, and from what I
read in the forums a lot of others are seeing the same thing and they are scattered through out Washington. |
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ashworth
join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to JerryTongue
Why do they give you smokin' download and nothing on the upload ??? One of these days the ISP's will realize it goes both ways.... |
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JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA | They hold back on the upload because they don't want there customers to run servers. |
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Obama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Beverly Hills, CA | Where's the DEAL?
I can't find it on their site? |
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