CPM
join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL
1 edit | History of the World: Part I
A quote from the movie History of the World: Part I "F the poor" |
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs:
| Concerning Pennsylvania...
There's a reason why Verizon is deploying FIOS within a county named "Bucks."   :: ducking ::
Regards,
Kory |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| Verizon does have a point
Verizon does have a point regarding video. Why should they have to service an entire town, when that town (very likely) already has access to cable and satelite. Does it really matter if half the town has Verizon video and half does not, so long as there is another option?
Note - this post in no way refers to FTTH. That is a seperate subject. |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL | reply to CPM
Re: History of the World: Part I
Yeah, the poor are dying for Verizon video service. |
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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY | Bring it to my affuent neighborhood first!
Yes, bring it to me FIRST! I will indeed order and pay for it! My family members in the hood still use dial up and won't pay for it.
GIVE IT TO ME NOW! |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
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1 edit |  Right.
quote:
Verizon chief Ivan Seidenberg today insisted his company would not be "redlining" (offering next-gen services to only the affluent), and that such charges were simply political tools of the cable industry
Once I see them running fiber in the boonies, such as Yale and Avoca, MI, or even Almont, MI, then I'll believe him. I'm sure in 20 years those spots will get the service, but you can be sure that all the affluent areas will get it first and Verizon will drag their feet as long as they can to get those other spots wired up. |
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TearAbite
join:2001-07-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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| No "affluent" in Ontario, CA !
Trust me - they just finished running the FIOS in certain parts of Ontario California (aka da ghetto).
There ain't NO affluent peeps in THAT neighborhood!
I'm affluent, and they have NO plans for my neighborhood!
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | cut them some slack!
They have to start somewhere, and it just MAKES SENSE to start in more affluent areas that will actually PAY FOR THE SERVICE. |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs:
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Re: No "affluent" in Ontario, CA !
I've noticed that in Southern CA.
They're laying fiber in lots of places in the IE, which definitely isn't considered "affluent".
But, CA home prices (even in non-"affluent" areas) are way more expensive than other places around the country.
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| Certainly not in California...
Beaumont, Murrietta, Chino, Riverside, Ontario...all have their good and bad parts, but in every case I would hardly call them 'affluent'...at least how the critics are portraying this. By their whining you would think only Newport and Bel Air are seeing FIOS deployment which nothing could be farther form the truth.
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Spazmoto
Dark Flow
join:2003-08-22
| And?
What's the point of putting fiber in the ghetto when the people there don't even subscribe to DSL or cable? Or even have computers half of them for that matter.
It's about money. Well maybe if we're lucky 99% money, 1% advancing our civilization.
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| reply to Bill
Re: No "affluent" in Ontario, CA !
But even with the IE's rising hope prices where $500K isn't uncommon, especially for western RCo, a lot of people bought when prices were still "cheap". Anyone who bought say before 1995 didn't pay 50 zillion bucks for their joint...even in Huntington.
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zoom314
Superman
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
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said by Bill  :I've noticed that in Southern CA. They're laying fiber in lots of places in the IE, which definitely isn't considered "affluent". But, CA home prices (even in non-"affluent" areas) are way more expensive than other places around the country. Heck Yeah, Not long ago I was looking on www.realtor.com and found a Newly built home for sale near where I live in Yermo for $210,000.00, So sure CA isn't affluent, But then It's not effluent either.
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
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join:2001-12-09
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Yah, that's what happened to us here in Seal Beach..we bought in around 1997 for fairly cheap, now we could never afford to buy this house again.
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bhorow
join:2004-05-17
Forest Hills, NY
| Why its not fair
Services should not only be made to affluent communities.
We are not two societies, where people living in a particular area are discriminated against. Not in my back yard. I thought we were all better than that.
It's understandable that Verizon may not be able to service areas with apartments rather than homes, but to discriminate which homes is wrong. At least promise to bump its dsl customers to 6MB/sec. Phone companies should say a customer is a customer, as long as there willing to pay for the service. Its wrong to segregate communities. Maybe poor communities shouldn't have schools and libraries either or hospitals (Sarcastically speaking). Offering services everywhere is a big part of the United States of America.
If you allow Phone companies to operate on a unfair playing field, then what will happen is that that area will grow, and cable will loose, eventually what will happen is that phone companies will own all, and then watch the prices spike.
Phone and cable companies need to be on a fair playing field with video service, that's what America is all about. |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | reply to Bill
Re: No "affluent" in Ontario, CA !
Thank goodness for Prop 13. |
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Orwell1984
@fdn.com | Their fiber
Much as I dislike big business, it is after all their fiber. Shouldn't they be allowed to put it where it will make money. |
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Not Quite
@unumprovident.com | reply to imrf
Re: Right.
There is a difference between providing services to non affluent areas and providing them to people in BFE... |
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wraith h
join:2003-06-27
Alvarado, TX
clubs: | reply to Orwell1984
Re: Their fiber
making money is fine... i have had fiber ran 200 yards from my house for over 1 year.. and it hasn't been activated... im still running a 26k dial up connection. what's up with that? |
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Jamuka
join:2005-06-06
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Re: Why its not fair
said by bhorow :Phone and cable companies need to be on a fair playing field with video service, that's what America is all about. Sorry, no. We live in a Capitalist society and companies are here to make money. Companies are not going to purposely lose money. If they start losing they will either stop what they are doing and/or go out of business. Why don't you start a phone company and start laying down fiber in areas where people can't pay for it and see how far you get. Verizon must recoup their up-front costs initially. That is the purpose of them deploying only in certains areas. Laying down fiber is obviously not cheap so if you spend the money and don't see a ROI (return on investment) then you are basically shooting yourself in the foot. |
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