GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | I agree with the IPTV providers.
This is one case in which the timetable to delivery will slow dramatically, or may conclude in a fashion to not deploy it at all. If there is a middle-ground, then they'll deploy only in large markets and be accused of cherry-picking again. |
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PeterCollins
join:2005-05-23
Geneva, IL
| Statewide Franchises
I guess one of the biggest problems I see with this type of push would be the ability of the Cities to actually get the franchise fees from the State.
I can just see a Governor deciding to seize franchise fees to help balance a state budget or something similar.
I also think that having to deal with each city may keep them (cable & phone cos) a little more honest. They can't just buy off the state house and senate, as they've tried to do with the anti-muni and dereg bills. |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH | Figures.
And yet the cable providers could offer digital phone service and VOIP with their internet service, that's not a problem though. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
 ·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| reply to PeterCollins
Re: Statewide Franchises
We waited this long, why rush in and loose a something as benefical as franchise agreements. I would rather a service agreement, then not. Plus i dont want them cherrypicking areas, if they cant compete with cable, maybe they should just admit it.
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GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | Yeah, and when cable entered the telephony market without restraints that were placed on the phone companies you had no problems with that unfair advantage. |
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | This is great news
Good Job TX . I am happy i live in this state. if the cable providers have to go to every city why should it be any different for the phone comp's |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| said by CO_Chris  :Good Job TX . I am happy i live in this state. if the cable providers have to go to every city why should it be any different for the phone comp's Yah, thats a great way to look at it. While the cable companies keep hosing you guys with rate increases every year, be happy that your ignorant state is hindering the speedup process of competition to cable TV. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to GhostDoggy
Re: Statewide Franchises
That's the governments fault, they labeled cable as an information service, not a telecommunications service.
I am glad that they so far haven't been give state-wide franchise agreement. It won't be any slower getting local agreements vs. a state-wide one, since they only has service active in a handful of cities. They just need to get off their butts and send out their proposals. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to CO_Chris
Re: This is great news
said by CO_Chris :Good Job TX . I am happy i live in this state. if the cable providers have to go to every city why should it be any different for the phone comp's So you won't be complaining when FIOS and/or whatever SBC's equivalent in TX doesn't get deployed?
I don't get it. People here whine about this country dropping in the rankings of broadband penetration (why this matters, I don't understand) but then they praise stupid laws like these which discourage enhanced broadband services deployment by the private sector.
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to Cod
said by Cod : While the cable companies keep hosing you guys with rate increases every year, hmm.. you must have not seen the rate increases both DirecTV and Dish Network have done in the last two years, with many more to come now that they have the taste of that. |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | reply to GhostDoggy
Re: Statewide Franchises
Regulations that the Bells have to adhere to are the ones they AGREED to have. Not only agreed, but even pushed for it (albeit for ulterior motives). At least the ones they complain so much about. |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Repeat after me
Verizon isn't deploying IPTV.
The issue still remains though. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to imrf
Re: This is great news
My DirecTV bill actually went down when they re-organized their rate structure a couple years ago. It looks like it's gone up by $2 since I left.
Cable is a good deal right now for me only because I'm into HDTV and DVR. $60+ per month for Digital Classic (which is what I consider to be roughly equivalent to DirecTV's $42 plan) is a total rip-off, I feel sorry for people who aren't into HD and DVR who aren't getting value out of that high price.
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GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA
| reply to imrf
Re: Statewide Franchises
I agree, its is all about paperwork. But that is only the initial process. What happens when those small townships start asking for unconventional conditions--which has been illustrated before on DSLR before as example is extreme requests.
A simplification of the process would benefit everyone, not just phone companies diversifying. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| said by GhostDoggy :I agree, its is all about paperwork. But that is only the initial process. What happens when those small townships start asking for unconventional conditions--which has been illustrated before on DSLR before as example is extreme requests. That's part of the game in getting cable tv franchises. If Verizon and SBC can't play the game properly, then don't play at all.
A simplification of the process would benefit everyone, not just phone companies diversifying. Sure, but then the state would also have to give the cable companies the same opportunity. |
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO
·Comcast
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·Comcast Digital Vo..
| reply to pnh102
Re: This is great news
So you won't be complaining when FIOS and/or whatever SBC's equivalent in TX doesn't get deployed?
I really dont care if FIOS gets deployed, what do we need that speed for anyway?
BTW I have fiber on my block as per a SBC tech that came out to the aprt next door and he showed me the line that is on the pole going down the block so yes its here where i live but NO thanks SBC |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs: | reply to pnh102
What's your argument for why statewide franchises are a good thing?
KM |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by KoolMoe :What's your argument for why statewide franchises are a good thing? Anything that the government at all levels can do to get out of the way of any private broadband deployment is a good thing.
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Speakeasy
| That's not a very convincing argument.
I somewhat agree that municiple franchises may be irrelevent these days with, what, four cable providers. If all the PA muni's sign with Comcast except one, what competitor is going to service that one holdout community?
Such a setup made much more sense back when there were multiple cable providers willing to service any area they could access.
BUT I think each municipality has every right to ensure their community is 'provided for'. Maybe a Statewide Franchise IS a good idea, but the franchisee should have to agree to related conditions, perhaps like:
-ensuring every community has the same service options as every other.
-every community has reasonable access to Public Access facilities
-there are enough support options for each community
-service level agreements
etc.
Likewise, the State should ensure a portion of the franchise fee makes it back to each community (based on the subscribers?) so they don't suddenly lose that income and so the State is less-likely to approve the concept solely due to 'dollar-sign eyes'.
KM |
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ryzinho
join:2005-05-24
San Diego, CA | reply to CO_Chris
IPTV?
Are they running IPTV trials in your area as well? |
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