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Comments on news posted 2005-05-24 19:05:15: Cox has confirmed something our resident rumor-mongers predicted last week: Cox will soon start offering a new 15Mbps/2Mbps tier to "Premier" customers in Northern Virginia for $55 (bundled price), as well as boosting their standard downstream "prefe.. ..

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jarablue
Always be true to yourself

join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA
Charter

Let me say holy moly. That is a nice speed boost. Charter you paying attention? That is one nice speed increase. Oh by the way do they have a set amount on total bandwidth used per month?


hurl8
Premium
join:2003-01-21
Ontario, CA
 And the race begins

With this push i think the rest of the cable companies will follow to keep up with competition. It's going to get interesting after this i think.


AuraReturn
Premium
join:2003-08-18
San Francisco, CA
clubs:
Competition

Competition rocks.:)

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline

reply to jarablue
Re: Charter

said by jarablue See Profile:

Oh by the way do they have a set amount on total bandwidth used per month?
From what i hear is they don't, but if they think your "abusing" the bandwidth they will. Not sure if they ever said what that that accounts to..


Rob A
Same Old Jets
Premium
join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ
Still aint gonna compete with fios.

Fios 15/2 for 44.95/month
Cox 15/2 for 54.95/month
Hmm....what is the better deal?


AbBaZaBbA
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Wildomar, CA
·Verizon FIOS

yea and trust me, they WILL have bandwith caps for excessive users, especially the upload.

It's the way cable networks work with the upload. Only one person on a node can send at once. So if too many people are uploading it can take out the whole network.

Fios has no such problem. I can't wait


NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
Yeah plus people with any signal issues will not see those speeds and when you call and complain you'll get the "If we find no problem we charge you 55 dollars for the rollout"

Yeah I love my FIOS!


Fubar

join:2001-02-20
Phoenix, AZ

reply to AbBaZaBbA
said by AbBaZaBbA See Profile:

It's the way cable networks work with the upload. Only one person on a node can send at once. So if too many people are uploading it can take out the whole network.

You are so incorrect I don't even know how to respond....

If that was true everyone on cable would only have a 56K upload.....

A node has a certain amount of upload available, and with Cox going to DOCSIS 2.0 (to supply the 2meg upload) there is plenty available sins the super heavy uploader...

I2uss

join:2004-01-15
Vienna, VA

Good for all of Northern Virginia

Many places in Northern Virginia still do not have Fios, so this will be a welcomed upgrade for a lot of people. Others are happy with Cox right now and would like to get such an increase without the hassle of changing services. For those lucky enough to already have Fios, this can also be seen as a positive since Fiber can easily handle subsequent upgrades. This is a prime example why competition is a good thing and it will become even more interesting when Verizon has an accompanying TV package.

eric89074

join:2004-08-13
Henderson, NV
reply to Fubar
Re: Still aint gonna compete with fios.

Nice to see Northern Virginia getting 15/2 while Vegas still can't even get 768k up. Keep up the good work!


splix
Premium
join:2002-02-19
Oakton, VA
 reply to jarablue
Re: Charter

Sounds good...sounds good.


technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
reply to Rob A
Re: Still aint gonna compete with fios.

FIOS is only the better deal if it is available to you


AbBaZaBbA
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Wildomar, CA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to Fubar
I'm not sure about 2.0 but I remember a few years ago really looking into it. Basically downloads get broadcast over variable frequencies. So they can be broadcasting to as many people as can fit at once. But with uploads, only one client can be transmitting at a time. (we're talking miliseconds though). But with eneough people uploading cable networks can get really congested.


rtcpenguin
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Fairfax, VA
·Cox HSI

reply to I2uss
Re: Good for all of Northern Virginia

said by I2uss See Profile:

Many places in Northern Virginia still do not have Fios, so this will be a welcomed upgrade for a lot of people.
Yes, what is the point if it isn't meant to compete with FiOS?
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PILMAN

join:2002-11-23
Fort Walton Beach, FL
This is bullshit. Knowing my area where we have cox but not even our own backbone, we'll never get the speed increase.


Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA


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reply to hurl8
Race is already WON

Cable @ 15mbps per customer my ass! There is no way on current cable systems this will work. Sure a select few may see those speeds @ 5AM. Two years ago I uncapped my cable modem (set it to 100mbps down & up) and my actual speeds were in the neighborhood of 7mbps down 1.5mbps up. [no don't ask me how to do this, I got caught and had to go back to 768/128 - boy was that painful!]

Some cable FACTS (stolen from an FAQ here @ DSLR):
Homes passed per node can be anywhere from 100-2000 and subscription rate depends on competition, marketing, and system performance. Most cable companies design for 10-25% subscription rates for cable modem customers. So this means anywhere from 10-500 modem customers are connected per node in most cases, depending on local cable system design. Usually cable systems are designed so a single downstream port is split to serve several nodes.

DOCSIS 1.0, 1.1, & 2.0 can do about 27 mbps per downstream port using QAM 64 modulation and about 38 mbps using QAM 256 modulation. Upstream is limited to about 5 mbps per upstream port using DOCSIS 1.0, 10 mbps using DOCSIS 1.1, and 30 mbps using DOCSIS 2.0

Read that again... 10-1000 cable customers can share 27-38 mbps downstream bandwidth capacity! More likely this is 150 to 300 or more on most cable systems today.

Verizon FIOS on the other hand currently has 622mbps for up to 32 houses with their current BPON fiber technology. In a year they are slated to switch to GPON which has 2.4 Gbps downstream, 1.2 Gbps upstream, to each cluster of up to 32 homes.

GAME OVER. VERIZON WINS. THANK YOU PLEASE COME AGAIN.
(edit: removed flame bait)


pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
Premium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
clubs:
reply to hurl8
Re: And the race begins

Only if they are being threatened by Verizon. Northern Virginia Cox will have 5mb download 2mbit upload for their basic tier. Us poor Mediacom users are going to 5mbit 256kbit.
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markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
reply to Jerm
Re: Race is already WON

Now if only you got YOUR facts right you might be believable


Evil_Icon
Digital Pimp

join:2003-02-24
Bossier City, LA
·Suddenlink

reply to PILMAN
Re: Good for all of Northern Virginia

Thats most impressive comming from COX!I have always looked down on COX till now.Reason is my sister has COX Internet and it has always sucked.She gets 956/96 and thats on a good speed test.I can't get COX though because I live in the next city that is wraped up by (TWC).

I wonder if Time Warner Cable will do the same and if so would it be in all TWC divisions?The only comp. TWC has in my town is Bell South.The worst ISP in the country.Outragious prices and super slow speeds.O yeah and Bayou Internet,witch is still braging about dial-up lol.
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More upload please!


Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs:
reply to Jerm
Re: Race is already WON

Cox passes 750 homes on a typical node, and has the ability to split nodes very easily.
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