  jarablue Always be true to yourself
join:2001-06-11 Worcester, MA | Charter
Let me say holy moly. That is a nice speed boost. Charter you paying attention? That is one nice speed increase. Oh by the way do they have a set amount on total bandwidth used per month? |
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  hurl8 Premium join:2003-01-21 Ontario, CA | And the race begins
With this push i think the rest of the cable companies will follow to keep up with competition. It's going to get interesting after this i think. |
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  AuraReturn Premium join:2003-08-18 San Francisco, CA clubs: | Competition
Competition rocks.:) |
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 markopoleo
join:2003-04-02 Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline
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said by jarablue : Oh by the way do they have a set amount on total bandwidth used per month? From what i hear is they don't, but if they think your "abusing" the bandwidth they will. Not sure if they ever said what that that accounts to.. |
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  Rob A Same Old Jets Premium join:2005-01-17 Pompton Plains, NJ | Still aint gonna compete with fios.
Fios 15/2 for 44.95/month Cox 15/2 for 54.95/month Hmm....what is the better deal? |
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  AbBaZaBbA Premium join:2002-07-10 Wildomar, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| yea and trust me, they WILL have bandwith caps for excessive users, especially the upload.
It's the way cable networks work with the upload. Only one person on a node can send at once. So if too many people are uploading it can take out the whole network.
Fios has no such problem. I can't wait  |
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  NOCMan Verizon Fios User Premium join:2004-09-30 Flower Mound, TX | Yeah plus people with any signal issues will not see those speeds and when you call and complain you'll get the "If we find no problem we charge you 55 dollars for the rollout"
Yeah I love my FIOS! |
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  Fubar
join:2001-02-20 Phoenix, AZ
| reply to AbBaZaBbA said by AbBaZaBbA :It's the way cable networks work with the upload. Only one person on a node can send at once. So if too many people are uploading it can take out the whole network. You are so incorrect I don't even know how to respond....
If that was true everyone on cable would only have a 56K upload.....
A node has a certain amount of upload available, and with Cox going to DOCSIS 2.0 (to supply the 2meg upload) there is plenty available sins the super heavy uploader... |
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 I2uss
join:2004-01-15 Vienna, VA
| Good for all of Northern Virginia
Many places in Northern Virginia still do not have Fios, so this will be a welcomed upgrade for a lot of people. Others are happy with Cox right now and would like to get such an increase without the hassle of changing services. For those lucky enough to already have Fios, this can also be seen as a positive since Fiber can easily handle subsequent upgrades. This is a prime example why competition is a good thing and it will become even more interesting when Verizon has an accompanying TV package. |
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 eric89074
join:2004-08-13 Henderson, NV | reply to Fubar Re: Still aint gonna compete with fios.
Nice to see Northern Virginia getting 15/2 while Vegas still can't even get 768k up. Keep up the good work! |
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  splix Premium join:2002-02-19 Oakton, VA | reply to jarablue Re: Charter
Sounds good...sounds good. |
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  technick Premium join:2000-12-16 Loganville, GA | reply to Rob A Re: Still aint gonna compete with fios.
FIOS is only the better deal if it is available to you  |
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  AbBaZaBbA Premium join:2002-07-10 Wildomar, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Fubar I'm not sure about 2.0 but I remember a few years ago really looking into it. Basically downloads get broadcast over variable frequencies. So they can be broadcasting to as many people as can fit at once. But with uploads, only one client can be transmitting at a time. (we're talking miliseconds though). But with eneough people uploading cable networks can get really congested. |
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  rtcpenguin Premium join:2001-01-21 Fairfax, VA
·Cox HSI
| reply to I2uss Re: Good for all of Northern Virginia
said by I2uss :Many places in Northern Virginia still do not have Fios, so this will be a welcomed upgrade for a lot of people. Yes, what is the point if it isn't meant to compete with FiOS? -- The Best of You: The Best of Foo |
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 PILMAN
join:2002-11-23 Fort Walton Beach, FL | This is bullshit. Knowing my area where we have cox but not even our own backbone, we'll never get the speed increase. |
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  Jerm
join:2000-04-10 Richland, WA
3 edits | reply to hurl8 Race is already WON
Cable @ 15mbps per customer my ass! There is no way on current cable systems this will work. Sure a select few may see those speeds @ 5AM. Two years ago I uncapped my cable modem (set it to 100mbps down & up) and my actual speeds were in the neighborhood of 7mbps down 1.5mbps up. [no don't ask me how to do this, I got caught and had to go back to 768/128 - boy was that painful!]
Some cable FACTS (stolen from an FAQ here @ DSLR): Homes passed per node can be anywhere from 100-2000 and subscription rate depends on competition, marketing, and system performance. Most cable companies design for 10-25% subscription rates for cable modem customers. So this means anywhere from 10-500 modem customers are connected per node in most cases, depending on local cable system design. Usually cable systems are designed so a single downstream port is split to serve several nodes.
DOCSIS 1.0, 1.1, & 2.0 can do about 27 mbps per downstream port using QAM 64 modulation and about 38 mbps using QAM 256 modulation. Upstream is limited to about 5 mbps per upstream port using DOCSIS 1.0, 10 mbps using DOCSIS 1.1, and 30 mbps using DOCSIS 2.0
Read that again... 10-1000 cable customers can share 27-38 mbps downstream bandwidth capacity! More likely this is 150 to 300 or more on most cable systems today.
Verizon FIOS on the other hand currently has 622mbps for up to 32 houses with their current BPON fiber technology. In a year they are slated to switch to GPON which has 2.4 Gbps downstream, 1.2 Gbps upstream, to each cluster of up to 32 homes.
GAME OVER. VERIZON WINS. THANK YOU PLEASE COME AGAIN. (edit: removed flame bait) |
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  pcscdma Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle Premium join:2004-01-14 Winterset, IA clubs: | reply to hurl8 Re: And the race begins
Only if they are being threatened by Verizon. Northern Virginia Cox will have 5mb download 2mbit upload for their basic tier. Us poor Mediacom users are going to 5mbit 256kbit. -- Posting .sig |
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 markopoleo
join:2003-04-02 Bonne Terre, MO | reply to Jerm Re: Race is already WON
Now if only you got YOUR facts right you might be believable |
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  Evil_Icon Digital Pimp
join:2003-02-24 Bossier City, LA
·Suddenlink
| reply to PILMAN Re: Good for all of Northern Virginia
Thats most impressive comming from COX!I have always looked down on COX till now.Reason is my sister has COX Internet and it has always sucked.She gets 956/96 and thats on a good speed test.I can't get COX though because I live in the next city that is wraped up by (TWC).
I wonder if Time Warner Cable will do the same and if so would it be in all TWC divisions?The only comp. TWC has in my town is Bell South.The worst ISP in the country.Outragious prices and super slow speeds.O yeah and Bayou Internet,witch is still braging about dial-up lol. -- More upload please! |
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  Smokey Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada Premium join:2003-05-20 Va Beach clubs: | reply to Jerm Re: Race is already WON
Cox passes 750 homes on a typical node, and has the ability to split nodes very easily. -- Plvres crapvlas qvam gladivs |
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