Dissman
join:2001-04-26
Youngstown, OH
| Few want naked DSL?
Well, we dont want *forced* bundling either. To get the special discount rate, you have to be signed up to a near perpetual contract with some obnoxiously expensive phone plan or with Dish Network. Plus, i'm stuck with a phone line that i dont even use that costs me like $15.00 a month. SBC internet at $53.95 a month is no deal. |
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Maxeh
Woot?
Premium
join:2002-12-23
Chicago, IL
clubs:
 ·DSL EXTREME
| i'd drop
I'd drop local (almost 40$) a month, faster then your leetest curry (teh scene joke). In the past year i have never touched my home phone, i just used my cell and skype.
rarely anyone in my home uses the home telephone line, so if i had the option of converting it to a $20 voip line, i'd jump right on it |
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rtkeen
join:2001-08-02
Indianapolis, IN | Bundled services
I guess it depends on how the services are bundled.
Vonage offers bundled services. But those bundled services are offered at 1/3 the cost of the same bundle from SBC.
We don't want SBC's bundled services ... |
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Riss_Centaur
Mod'taur - - - - 4 On The Floor.
Premium,MVM,Ex-Mod 2005-07
join:2004-01-20
other
clubs: | Naked SBC
You sure find demand for it online here: »When will SBC get naked?
-Riss
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I have a plan so cunning you can pin a tail on it and call it a weasel! |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
Premium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | ???
Not many would but would it really cost them that much to cut special services from them (like they already do) to sell it? |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | And where...
is he getting his info?? How about some solid evidence and not just something you decided to pick out your arse Mr. Shaw!!!
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FWD#: 223611 |
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GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | Like the Devil saying ...
People WANT to come to Hell and not boring Heaven. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
| That is to funny.
Andy Shaw to hire better researchers. Or give up the drugs.
What next you going to pull what cable companies did, but tell people if they go wireless you will get cancer and die?  |
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Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·Cricket Broadband
·AT&T DSL Service
| What?
Isn't this coming from the same company that likes to distribute lies through loaded polls?
What they REALLY meant was "customers don't want naked DSL because they don't want to be forced into using cingular as their cell phone provider and they don't want to pay outrageous monthly fees for naked DSL." |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| hmmmm...........
Their paradigm (sic) is bundling....it's harder to change when everything is tied together.....this is everyones (Telco/cableco) business model....they present it as a savings to the customer.... when it really isn't ......once they have you, try to change.....I have sbc for local, att long distance, cingular for cell, Covad for dsl....., I get bum rushed every month to combine.....never will.....my phone service has been great...same phone for 30 years.....use my cell for long distance, no xtra charge....dsl only a couple glitches in 5 years...I don't like to waste money, but can afford current set up....dsl is on fax line, not my regular line....I could probably save some money by combining, but screwem....and they must of pulled the info from someones arse....
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Tiggercharm
@165.252.x.x
| DSL should get naked
I don't make enough calls to warrent a land line as well as a cellular. My obvious choice was cable modem. DSL would have been viable if it were naked. Truth be told SBC is increasingly interested in offering bundled services. Lock down the customer on as many products as they can! |
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richdelb
Go Hawks Go
Premium
join:2003-01-22
Algonquin, IL
·Comcast Formerly ..
| reply to Dissman
Re: Few want naked DSL?
DSL Doesn't even exist in my mind, unless I can get it without needing a POTS line. It simply is not an option, no matter the speed, or cost.
I have no need for a POTS line. Why pay all that extra money for DSL? It's simply a surcharge. $29.95 a month for DSL PLUS 15 extra bucks for a land line? (and all it's taxes and "fees") (On a side note, one could argue that a POTS line is just another SBC created fee for the use of it's DSL service...)
Thanks, really, but I'll pass on DSL.
Look.. I am paying for cable internet, so the cost isn't the issue for me. It's the fact that I'd have to pay for something that I DO NOT WANT, in order to get what I do want.
I'm making no judgement on the ACTUAL DSL service here, just to be clear... |
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bac522
join:2003-08-04
Manchester, NH
| reply to Tiggercharm
Re: DSL should get naked
said by Tiggercharm:
I don't make enough calls to warrent a land line as well as a cellular. My obvious choice was cable modem. DSL would have been viable if it were naked. Truth be told SBC is increasingly interested in offering bundled services. Lock down the customer on as many products as they can!
And your cable modem is not a force bundle  |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| said by bac522  :And your cable modem is not a force bundle More than likely not. Most cable companies do not require you to have tv service to get internet, unlike SBC who requires an active phone line to get DSL otherwise your SOL, or you have to pay the Speakeasy "rape" charges for a naked service. |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL |  Bundle up one service please.
Great---how about you Bells bundle up just one service for me? Thanks... |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
| reply to rtkeen
Re: Bundled services
said by rtkeen :Vonage offers bundled services. Maybe it is a case of semantics, but I tend to view Vonage as offering bundled features versus bundled services. If one looks at the video, data, and voice triad as services, Vonage only offers one - voice and also requires that the customer already has a data service for connectivity.
While YMMV, the features of my voice services from SBC and Vonage are pretty much equivalent (not including e911), with my monthly Vonage bill at 40% of the voice portion of my SBC bill. Then again, SBC is a stand alone service and Vonage requires that I purchase broadband service from a third party in order to be functional. Total monthly cost for Vonage would need to include some kind of allocation of broadband cost for anything resembling an apples to apples comparison. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| reply to imrf
Re: DSL should get naked
OTOH Cable Companies DO charge you a fee for not having their TV Service (ie: If you have both you get a "Discount" off your Cable Internet fee which is a way to make the fee not look like a penalty for having Naked Cable Internet). |
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mlundin
join:2001-03-27
Lawrence, KS
·Sunflower Broadband
·Comcast
| reply to Maxeh
Re: i'd drop
said by Maxeh :I'd drop local (almost 40$) a month, faster then your leetest curry (teh scene joke). In the past year i have never touched my home phone, i just used my cell and skype. I'm in the same boat...I'd drop my land line like a hot potato given the first opportunity. And on second thought, if there isn't much demand for it, then what's the problem offering it to those who do? It won't damage their business and marketing plan too much if only a few want it, and it really can't be a whole lot harder than changing a few settings in their billing software. Hell, they might even gain a few customers. I fail to see why these companies have an issue with doing this unless there truly is demand and they are afraid of losing something by offering the choice. |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to RARPSL
Re: DSL should get naked
said by RARPSL :OTOH Cable Companies DO charge you a fee for not having their TV Service Some do some don't. Some charge $5, some $15. The hit for not having an SBC line is much more than the cable hit around here, your area may be different. |
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mahony
join:2000-06-24
Modesto, CA
| reply to richdelb
Re: Few want naked DSL?
Richdelb said
"Look.. I am paying for cable internet, so the cost isn't the issue for me. It's the fact that I'd have to pay for something that I DO NOT WANT, in order to get what I do want."
Keep paying for cable/sat, you pay for about 100 channels you newver watch. Whan will they have a a la carte TV service? I am tired of paying for HGTV and other channels I never watch. |
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