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Comments on news posted 2005-05-11 14:12:05: In an age where broadband service comes loaded with parental controls, flash-heavy portals, newsgroup access, identity theft-protection and other attempts at hand holding, where are the incumbent ISPs that want to offer the more experienced web user .. ..

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AbBaZaBbA
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Wildomar, CA
·Verizon FIOS


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it'll never happen

becuase they control what they offer, not us. Sure maybe 10% of users would take advantage of it. But those 10% are most likely so dependent on the internet that they have no choice but pay what the company is asking for all the extras.

And of course, companies have no incentive to make less money.


Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK
In Europe already?

Isn't this in Europe already? It would be nice here in the states, but I doubt it would fly.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
I would buy that

If it gave a substantial savings over regular broadband. I always wondered why they never did this before..long as they had a website that showed downtime/maintenance i be all over that like white on rice.


vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
No support?

I disagree with no support. Certainly if they don't provide email, newsgroups, etc they aren't going to support those features, but they need to make sure users can at least use the services they sell. Basic support would be more like it.


dfsg

@65.94.x.x
Like the man said if you need it you ain't the target audience.

Try AOL I hear the have tech support for everything including the kitchen sink

Cyber2lz

join:2001-11-15
Odessa, FL

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could not agree more

Just give me 12 octets of addresses, I'll take care of the rest!!!!

that don't change!! good catch meskinct


cwilliams193

@cgocable.net
reply to vpoko
Re: No support?

that sounds resonable to me, i mean getting hung up on because you reloaded your pc and forgot the SMTP server come on!


meskinct
Mad Scientist at Work
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join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT
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Add a Static IP to that list

Throw in a static IP and I'm sold.


ropeguru
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Bridgeport, WV
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reply to markopoleo
Re: I would buy that

said by markopoleo See Profile:

If it gave a substantial savings over regular broadband.
Would never happen. They would juat leave the price the same and charge more for everything else. Just like the cable companies supposed discounts for combo services..
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hurleyp

join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed

But what about the art history majors?

I would be happy with a bare-bones service as long as it was rock solid. I already have a cheap-o web hosting service that also includes POP/SMTP. Usenet isn't that big a deal to me any more so I don't really want to pay for it if I never use it. As long as I can surf and upload/download, and I can configure the rest myself, it would be worth a look. But of course, I'm a techno-weenie.
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Nightfall
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast

A skewed response

Broadbandreports is a community built on technically savvy people for the most part. Sure, a majority of the people here including myself would pay for a barebones connection. However, ask that on msn.com or yahoo.com and the response would probably be 50-50 right down the line.

We are talking about a population that would PAY for their $20 a month AOL connection on top of their normal broadband internet because they don't want to lose their aol email or interface. We are talking about people who need to have their homepage come up so they have a place to "start" browsing. A lot of them don't know addresses and just rely on the next link to click on.

We are an advanced group here at broadbandreports, but the general population is not ready for a lite connection. At least not yet.
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Dragasoni
We're All Mad Here
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join:2001-12-14
Rotonda West, FL

reply to vpoko
Re: No support?

Who needs support? Just set up a current network status page that is maintained. I don't need all their fluff, I don't use all their fluff, why should I pay for it when I all I use it the connection itself?

I think this is a great idea, but I doubt it will fly in this country.

-Dragasoni-
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Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
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join:2001-10-05
united state

reply to vpoko
said by vpoko See Profile:

I disagree with no support. Certainly if they don't provide email, newsgroups, etc they aren't going to support those features, but they need to make sure users can at least use the services they sell. Basic support would be more like it.
Wait...do ISP's around now offer support? heh
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Dagda1175

join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA
Pretty much good....

...however the lack of tech support would bug me in a very simple way. If they dont tell you when they have problems on their end, it makes potentially fixing connection problems on your own end much harder.


Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
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reply to vpoko
Re: No support?

said by vpoko See Profile:

I disagree with no support.
It ain't for you then. No harm/no foul. They want a different customer.

I however would love it.

I've only called my ISP's support for one issue and it was DSL sync (or lack there of) issue alone. I know how to setup DUN, setup a Router, read their single page with settings and I do like their plan. I wish I could get it without having to move to Hawaii. It works for me, but I've been around since a BBS was the closest thing to the old Net before the commercial Net came about. Still have a old 1200 and 2400 Modem.

»www.flex.com/adsl/index2.html
quote:
And don't give me that "oh... this ISP ain't gonna last very long, they don't know what they are doing..." line. We've been an ISP since July 1994 and we're still here, kicking your ISP butt. Flex is Hawaii's very first ISP (go ask around, ask LavaNet even.) We simply blow our competition away.
AND

quote:
Remember, No Tech Support!

FlexNet doesn't do Tech Support. You must know how to install a network
card in your computer and configure your Ethernet Network settings.

When you signup for ADSL from us, we will give you a Network Setup sheet that includes usable IP range, Default Gateway, Netmask and DNS servers.

This is the only information that we will provide you --absolutely nothing else!

Regards,

Doctor Olds
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garagerock
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join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY
reply to Nightfall
Re: A skewed response

So, there is enough of a market for a high quality website like BBR, but no market for lite connection? What about everyone here who would want that?


Mark Z
Premium
join:2002-10-14
here in Canukistan

We call them istop.com, they will cancel your account if they deem you too stupid to use the internet.


drmorley
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join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL
clubs:
It's called digizip.com

Who you get:

/29 Routed Subnet
1.5/768 - via UUNET
Unlimited Newsgroups Access
Free Cisco Modem

All for $39.95/month

What you don't get:

Support
Email


Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:

 FlexNet Wholesale ADSL is who you are thinking of

quote:
There was a Hawaiian DSL provider whose name escapes me at the moment. The company made a living selling users very basic DSL on the island. No connection Faqs, no tech support, no newsgroup access; just a connection. It was the type of outfit that would hang-up on you if you called them asking for your SMTP mail server settings. If you didn't like it, you weren't their target audience.
Here they are.....
»www.flex.com/adsl/index2.html
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kingroach

join:2004-12-09
Astoria, NY

reply to Nightfall
Re: A skewed response

exactly.. I was convincing someone to get the verzion DSl instead of paying $25 for AOL.. then he said then how I am going to go to internet.. I was like why.. internet explorer?.. he was like." whats internet explorer"..

then verizon didnt have MSN premium with them, just a rebranded internet explorer.
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