53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone
| cant be that expensive
like they do now with dish and directv, they install it for you and provide you with a few recievers. I doubt it really costs that much to wire a home since they do thousands everyday, besides they make it up by signing the customer to a yearly contract. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Seems like making everything wireless makes the most sense to me.....put that MIMO gear to some actual work... |
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
| The future of IPTV
The future of IPTV is to embrace new technology and new consumer habits.
i.e. forget the exisiting OTA and even Cable TV of "watch it when we broadcast it" system. Move IPTV to recording devices which will serve as network severs throughout a home. This way multiple TVs will be able toa ccess the serve when the consumer wants to watch previously recorded material. The only issue will be how IPTV handles commercials. This can be achieved by placing such ads before and after programming (and maybe in the middle) rather than the "old" system of haivng Ads every 12 minutes or so.
Cost would be either cabling throughout the home or use of highspeed wireless to dumb boxes at each TV in the home.
Existing technology can make this work today. It's just that for now the market has been comparatively small (home high speed networks) and consumers are being overcharged for the functionality. Strangely Microsoft supports IPTV and with their media center PCs could easily build such a system, if they wanted.... |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | You did read the article, right? |
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clickwir
join:2001-06-21
Dickson City, PA | reply to Karl Bode
Re: cant be that expensive
security, bandwidth, lag, security, there are like 500 diffrent types of wireless, security, interferance, security.... hmmm. Looks like there are still way too many problems with wireless. |
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glmclell
join:2000-10-17
Manistee, MI
clubs:
 ·Charter Pipeline
|  going back to the 80's
remember the 80's, when cable companies used to make you rent their cable box, and it was expensive and they charged for each additional outlet
and then, the fcc which apprently once actually protected consumers instead of industry, passed laws making it illegal to charge for extra outlets or require cable boxes
seems the entertainment industry is just bringing us back a few decades with the promise of new technology ... be it iptv or digital-only cable - the BOX is BACK and more expensive than ever.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to clickwir
Re: cant be that expensive
Security? Does my Discovery Duck special in HD really need more than WPA2?
Run an ethernet line to your desktop.... |
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jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ | IP for TV makes no sense
This whole idea of using a point-to-point protocol to replace a broadcast protocol is inefficient and stupid IMHO.
What is the actual benefit of this? |
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juilinsandar
Texas Gooner
Premium
join:2000-07-17
San Benito, TX
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| reply to glmclell
Re: going back to the 80's
But. it's got more functionality than ever.
Take a look at 2Wire's MediaPortal which will be SBC's stb for their iptv service:
»www.2wire.com/?p=11
Specs: »www.2wire.com/?p=13 |
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Angrychair
join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast
| Regrets
Bellsouth is going to regret wasting their time with adsl+ (or whatever they want to call it) 5-10 years down the road when they're being buried because their lines can transmit only one television station at a time.
I can just imagine the advertising from cable and satellite companies pointing out the drastic limitations of their foolish service.
They should be working on distributing fiber as fast as they can RIGHT now. Not upgrading DSLAMs to handle slightly faster (but still heavily distance limited) next gen adsl. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·BroadVoice
| reply to glmclell
Re: going back to the 80's
Well if what you say is true then Time Warner Cable is, and has been, in violation of federal law for years. All TWC customers pay between $3.95 and $9.95 for each additional cable box they get. This is nothing new, in fact they have always charged per box.
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haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA
| Proper Home video distrobution
IPTV and Digital cable have the same problem and the same damn solution if someone would just open their damn eyes and start doing it.
Place the decoder/encoder(for interactive upstream services) at the Entry bridge to the house, decode everything the customer is suppoed to have decoded.
Have a Channel changing/Interactive settop box at the TV. Use good old COAX cable to (which many houses are already or easily can be wired with) send the signal to the settop box. Its function is to provide the high number channels most TVs can't tune to, and to control the interactive stuff by communicating with the decoder/encoder at the entry bridge. |
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Goober
Premium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to wifi4milez
Re: going back to the 80's
said by wifi4milez  :Well if what you say is true then Time Warner Cable is, and has been, in violation of federal law for years. All TWC customers pay between $3.95 and $9.95 for each additional cable box they get. This is nothing new, in fact they have always charged per box. You're missing it I think.
The cable company used to charge for each additional OUTLET.
They have the right to charge for each additional box. |
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alfnoid
Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-18
| Media converter is likely
$450 for two extra boxes? Wow!
I think that you will likely see some type of media converter where you can terminate the ethernet connection and convert it to a signal that will work on coax which can be fed through existing wiring.
It may be done this way years from now, but like the article says...cost prohibitive for now.
peace |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | reply to Angrychair
Re: Regrets
I agree, SBC is doing to same lame thing. Run FTTH or don't waste your time and our money. |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | reply to DaSneaky1D
Re: The future of IPTV
It's obvious he didn't. |
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | reply to Karl Bode
Re: cant be that expensive
But think of the QOS issues Im sure that will bring.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| reply to Goober
Re: going back to the 80's
I dont debate that cable co's no longer charge per outlet. However what he said was;
"remember the 80's, when cable companies used to make you rent their cable box, and it was expensive and they charged for each additional outlet
and then, the fcc which apprently once actually protected consumers instead of industry, passed laws making it illegal to charge for extra outlets or require cable boxes"
Everything mentioned above is still common practice except the per outlet charges. The cable co's require you to rent a cable box if you get digital cable, and they still charge per box.
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I like dogs, guns, and cheeseburgers. Whats your malfunction? |
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Swingerhead
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Richmond, VA | reply to glmclell
Would be nice if you could disconnect the cable line from the street and connect the "box" to a cable line in your house, then get service from any of the cable jacks. |
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | reply to wifi4milez
They don't require a box for basic cable. They can charge a box for expanded cable, or premium channels.
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