Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
3 edits | And People
Will be stupid enough to believe such crap. I hope some outfit comes in an blows the Telco's out of the water for such lies such as this. Rationing indeed, Hello out there
if the city did this Dish Network, and Direct TV would have a field day. Here in Cheyenne we have had such push polling leading up to elections we mostly tell these clowns to stick it. |
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batageek
Slave To The Duopoly
Premium
join:2003-01-25
1 edit | yep....been there twice already....
May the People of Lafayette be blessed with more common sense than those in the TriCities....
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LafayetteIT
join:2004-06-02
Lafayette, LA
| This is just the beginning.
Last pool asked if you wanted your tax money to pay for peoples porn viewing.
(May 05 Poll):
"The south side is more affluent than the north side, so it will get it first. How do you feel about that?" Divide and Conquer 101
"Since there is an issue with separation of church and state. Therefore, you will possibly (probably?) lose your religious channels. How do you feel about that?" Largest per capita Catholic population in the country.
"Watering your lawn during summer months is rationed to Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. How will you feel if you can only watch television on those days?" Retarded |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
4 edits | This is infuriating 
You know something the city of Lafayette could make a deal with dish network or Direct TV similar to the deal Rural Electric has in southern Wyoming with dish Network. basically the the dish provider supplies equipment and the city would install it and the city collects to money. The systems are installed free and the city would run the administrative part of it like Rural Electric does.
The beauty of such a setup is the City could give a cut rate deal on the basic service based on income level. Of course if you wanted a bigger package you would have to pay for it yourself. That way no tax payer money for porno.
and the religious channels could be made a part of the basic package.
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | Hmmmm.....
Where is Eliot Spitzer when you need him......
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ROFLtoday
@verizon.n
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Pure Scum
That's a telco characterized as pure scum. Using fear tactics to limit the fire of municipal communications services. The fact is that companies other than verizon are not investing enough to compete effectively using fiber based services, so the next best thing is kill off any chance of a municipal deployment... pure scum and I hope the people who receive this dis-information spit it back in the face of the senders! |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | reply to Transmaster
Re: This is just the beginning.
Providing any luxury and then discounting it based on income is pure evil. However the method of providing such service is an interesting idea. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| Why resort to this?
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to not allow the government to get into the broadband business. Every city which has done so has seen either taxes or fees for other services go up to cover the cost of broadband (Tacoma, WA and their 50% power rate hike comes to mind here).
There should be legitimate concerns though over the government regulating what you can and cannot watch. But resorting to such silliness as claiming that television viewing will be rationed is going to extremes.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | Tacoma's power rate hike has absolutely nothing to do with the broadband infrastructure roll out. The price hikes came from their power situation that season. I know this was touched upon more than once here on BBR. |
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footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
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Re: This is just the beginning.
said by LafayetteIT  :"Since there is an issue with separation of church and state. Therefore, you will possibly (probably?) lose your religious channels. How do you feel about that?" Largest per capita Catholic population in the country. I've gotta think this one has some truth to it. You just know there's someone out there just waiting to file a lawsuit forcing government fiber to stop carrying religious broadcasts. If they get before the right (wrong?) judge, they'll win. |
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LFT Fiber
@tsged.com | Good editorial
»www.theind.com/editorial.asp |
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batageek
Slave To The Duopoly
Premium
join:2003-01-25
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Re: Why resort to this?
Your Tacoma crack is completely false.
Let me provide a couple of links...
»www.tricitybroadband.com/failures.htm
»www.freepress.net/docs/mb_white_paper.pdf
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»www.freepress.net/docs/mb_telco_lies.pdf
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bobobillbondboat
@66.100.x.x
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To say the government shouldn't be involved in broadband is probably the most foolish thing anyone has ever said. It is idiotic to say so and completely misthought. The USA is 16th in broadband penetration, China will overcome us in percentage penetration in two years, so we can't blame our lack of penetration on our massive population.
China is a communist nation building and maintaining its own network and even they are doing better than the US at broadband.
I think the US should look to the infrastructure model/government system created in Japan, where penetration is over 90%. Essentially, anyone in Japan who wants broadband (and faster broadband, on average, than the US) can have it. And almost all choose to because the average service price is about $22 per month.
There is also alot of municipal broadband offered in Japan, particularly in rural areas on the northern islands.
The Japanese government made broadband penetration an imperative goal back in 2001 when the United States was still 4th in penetration. Even their prime minister had an official vision statement in regard to the broadband initiative. Now, the United States is one of few countries in the top forty of broadband deployment to NOT have any official government sanctioned broadband deployment execution plan. For the US to lag behind every western country and every pacific rim country in penetration is ridiculous. Clearly, the government must do SOMETHING to spark penetration and lower prices, even if that means using municipal utility services to ensure that the United States bounces back from its embarrassing technological status. BPL and WiFi service are new utilities for a new century.
We pay taxes on water and sewage and education that we didn't one hundred years ago. I suppose if we re-neg on those, the "capital market" will be better off? Think of how much more slowly businesses would function if all city supplied utility services had remained privatized. Think of how absolutely pathetic our work force would be if our education system was a private institution.
Now think about how much FASTER businesses in low population density areas could be run given affordable high-speed Internet, regardless of who provides it. I imagine in twenty years proposing taking away municipally-owned broadband services will be considered as completely vapid as saying "get rid of public electric and sewage services." From an economic stand point, public power HELPS the VAST MAJORITY of business by providing hundreds of businesses in communities with cheaper high-speed Internet much faster and with more visible public service than the Internet deployment giants. Frankly, those companies may find themselves to be simply glorified holding companies if they continue to act to suppress competition rather than improve their own services and penetration to compete with it.
We need a national broadband initiative and it needs to include municipal service options. They spark business growth, even if at the expense of the bloated and corrupt telecommunications industry. |
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LafayetteIT
join:2004-06-02
Lafayette, LA
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Re: Hmmmm.....
How many times must it be said that the funds for this project and not generated at all by the tax payers but by revenue bonds.
A municipal or revenue bond is supported by the revenue from a specific project, such as a toll bridge, highway, or local stadium.
This differs from general-obligation bonds, which can be repaid through a variety of tax sources. Revenue bonds are only payable from specified revenues.
Meaning that no matter what the only funds that can be used to pay off the bond is revenue from the project that is spawned by the bond. There is no obligation for the City of Lafayette to have to repay the debt with other funds if the project happens to fail. |
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