Tomek
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join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY | Nice
Since everybody loves football in Europe, it will spread faster than Anna Kournikova. But 4%? That damn a lot.
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Jim Gurd
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join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI | Terminology
Maybe I'm confused but don't worms spread by themselves? If you have to click on a file and open it then that's not a worm but a virus (spread by social engineering).
Am I right about this? |
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN | to add on a question, is zip file basically a trojan horse. don't u have to click on file after it has been unzipped. |
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
1 edit | reply to Jim Gurd
It depends on how you define terms like "worm," "virus" and "trojan".
If you assume that a worm spreads itself and a virus has to be launched in order to spread, then Sober could be considered a virus.
However, the classic definition of a virus is code that spreads by infecting other code, e.g. executables, documents, or the boot sectors on floppy and hard disks, and is propagated via the sharing of infected files or disks. Worms on the other hand don't infect other executables, instead they proactively spread themselves over a network (which can including mass emailing). So by that definition, Sober is a worm.
A Trojan Horse, by its classic definition, is a program that does something malicious while claiming to be innocent. A classic Trojan would be one that claims to be a cool game or screensaver but it does bad things when you run it. By that definition, pretty much any email worm can be considered a Trojan as well, but by definition Trojans don't spread on their own.
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SMTP: Spam and Malware Transfer Protocol. Also used on rare occasion to transmit e-mail messages. |
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AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
 ·Comcast
1 edit | reply to Tomek
Re: Nice
said by Tomek  :Since everybody loves football in Europe Which brings up the obvious question of who in the US would get this virus? 
(Aside from the Europeans who just happen to be here of course...)
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I guess I should have been more specific:
Who in the US would see "a zip file by promising them they have won tickets to the upcoming FIFA World Cup 2006 in Germany" and think that it's real? (Since almost no one in the US follows World Cup.)
Of course there are those people that will open anything, but of the remaining people... Come on! 
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| Well, it's clear that many users in the US still fall for emails that read "Your password" or "Your mail was rejected" and click on the attachment. Especially when there's also a message in some of them that read "No virus was found".
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woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
 ·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| Hmmmmmmmmmm
How many times do you have to tell people not to open an email attachment, let alone one that is zipped......
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| You could take a file virus.exe and zip it up as virus.zip, email it as an attachment in a message that says "VIRUS ATTACHED, DO NOT OPEN!" to everyone you know and someone will still open it. 
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a
@qwest.net | reply to AthlGrond
Re: Nice
only the computer illiterate could even possibly get this virus which is pretty much 75% of the US. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | Love the Title!
Just love the title! |
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Derch
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join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK | reply to AthlGrond
Re: Nice
I'm not quite an admin, but I do know that users will open any e-mail that says "free" in the subject line. |
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hurleyp
join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Annoying, but not fatal
I've received 4 "sobers" in the last couple of days, all caught by NAV. A couple of them were in PIF attachments - sheesh, pretty easy to catch. 
Paul
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a drunk
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Re: Nice
I was sober this morning... but now I'm drunk again |
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Aint that bad
@209.79.x.x | reply to hurleyp
Job Security
Another day, another virus. At least i know i will always have a job |
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boog
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join:2000-07-24
Trenton, OH
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Re: Annoying, but not fatal
I have recieved about 75 of them from my work's email, avg didn't catch it while it was zipped, but as soon an I tried dropping it on the desktop to inspect it further it dissapeared. (yes I like to tinker with things, and I pulled my computer off my network to check out the virus) |
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Fatal Vector
@aol.com | reply to kpatz
Re: Hmmmmmmmmmm
They assume the zip file is safe because it is not an executable. |
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shashinka
join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA | reply to AthlGrond
Re: Nice
No viruses around here. The only activity I have seen is from my firewall stating the there was a sober variant attacking or something but no attachments on any work or home e-mail of friends, family or coworkers. |
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wxboss
This is like Deja vu all over again.
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join:2005-01-30
Jacksonville, FL
clubs:
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmmmmmmmm
You'd be surprised. It's like that old adage about leading a horse to water.
Some people, no matter how much you tell them, just can't comprehend.
It reminds me of the old Far Side cartoon where the 'mentally challenged' kid is pushing on a door that's clearly marked 'Pull.' |
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Hank23
@cox.net | Bill Gates wants this
Stop running windows!
F*cking idiots! |
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