jarablue
Always be true to yourself
join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA
1 edit | Providers
With providers worrying about how to line the pockets with cash no wonder we are falling behind. Verizon is the only ones who are pushing the envelope right now. Everyone else is wondering how much smaller they can offer us bandwidth and how much profit they can see. Serves us right. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
| FCC Fees
Maybe if we got rid of all these damn FCC Fees that ISPS have to pass on to their customers, we wouldn't be in so much problem. But than again, with the current CEO's of large ISP's, their primary goal is to be able to retire as millionaires.
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RadioDoc
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Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Both, and neither.
"The U.S. ranking is something ITU and OECD researchers attribute to a lack of a cohesive government infrastructure policy - but free-market fans and incumbent supporters attribute to geography. The data indicates there are 11.4 broadband subscribers per every 100 U.S. inhabitants."
It's both. Plus, maybe, just maybe, most of us have better things to do than sit in front of a computer all fooking day playing with ourselves, unlike some "front running" counties' citizenry. |
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Crow30
@adelphia.net |  U.S. lagging again...
Well it appears the U.S. is lagging again when it comes to broad band. It seems like all the telco's & cable companies are trying to see how they can score BIG $$$ with out having to spend money on the infrastructure. Serves us right! |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| Any way you cut it -
- it's pathetic for the world's largest economy to be rated so low in an element of information technology. But hey, look at our education system; health care; having no national day off to vote; wages shrinking while corporate profits rise - the list of inequalities in America masquerading as 'someone else's problem' is enumerable. When we're no longer the hot-shot economy, being 16th (or 25th) won't matter!
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manfmmd
Premium
join:2003-01-14
Earth
clubs: | Population Density
Population density also factors into this. I wonder if ITU takes that into consideration. I'm guessing they DO NOT.
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| reply to jarablue
Re: Providers
It seems like everybody in this forum knows the score, it's ashame no one else knows. It's all about money, not advancement in civilization. FTTP / FTTH is just the first step, after that is the services that fiber can handle. But it seems to me it will be a very long time before we see speeds comparible to Japan / China. We might have flying cars by then.
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| reply to Titus Pullo
Re: Any way you cut it -
You know what's pathetic... I mean besides thinking that our rank in consumer broadband penetration makes one iota of a difference other than bragging rights... Thinking that having a national day off to vote is an important issue; even better that you then proceed forward and mention the economy.
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manfmmd
Premium
join:2003-01-14
Earth
clubs:
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Re: Both, and neither.
To add to you comment.... What percentage of the US is covered by DirecWay internet service? Just about 100% of the country, I would venture to guess without doing some digging. Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to.
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Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| reply to Titus Pullo
Re: Any way you cut it -
said by Titus Pullo  :But hey, look at our education system; health care; having no national day off to vote; wages shrinking while corporate profits rise - the list of inequalities in America masquerading as 'someone else's problem' is enumerable. That's because if we don't allow things like this to slide, then the terrorists win.  |
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madmatt5
join:2002-04-06
Citrus Heights, CA
| another bad survey...
The numbers fail to account for geography, demographics, and a host of other relevant factors. Compare apples to apples and I'm sure the US would be right up there.
Additionally, these days this ranking seems to be just about bragging rights. I really doubt that South Korea has a significant competitive advantage over us simply due to BB coverage... |
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | reply to manfmmd
Re: Population Density
Very good point, and well also I dont think we'd be cheering government infrastructure building a nationwide broadband. We're a free market and competition will bring us better things in THE LONG RUN. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| I am Going to be very selfish
I have my broadband connection it is going to be upgranded in a few weeks to as much as 7 mbps. I am not going to loose any sleep over the fact that Joe Blow who lives in Not On The Map, Wyoming Doesn't have broadband nor do I care if the United States is number 16 in broadband penetration. I am not going to worry about something I can do nothing about.
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| reply to Combat Chuck
Re: Any way you cut it -
said by Combat Chuck :You know what's pathetic... I mean besides thinking that our rank in consumer broadband penetration makes one iota of a difference other than bragging rights... Thinking that having a national day off to vote is an important issue; even better that you then proceed forward and mention the economy. Gee, we're writing on a forum named "Broadband Reports" and you're complaining about someone pointing out how hapless it is that we're not even in the top 10 for broadband penetration? We have a winner for the big first priz ...
And what on earth is wrong with having a national day off for citizens to vote? Working 8 hours only to wait in line for hours to vote is in what way an example of a "shining democracy?"
Since you don't like that idea, how about having elections on the weekend? Oh, don't want to pay the poll workers time and half I guess ... sheesh ...
In case you were asleep this last time around, Florida enabled weekend polls and the turnout was amazing. People cited the fact that they didn't have to run around after work as the number one reason they voted. You sound like one of those folks that don't like when a lot of people turn out to vote.
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| reply to Thaler
said by Thaler :That's because if we don't allow things like this to slide, then the terrorists win. Oh ... thanks for pointing that out!  |
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roamer1
sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
clubs:
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Re: Both, and neither.
said by manfmmd :Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to. I think that's a lot of it. Availability is generally not much of an issue nowadays (aside from rural areas, and even there satellite is available) -- it seems to be more of an issue of the usual American technophobia and the fact that (unlike in much of the rest of the world, where all phone calls are billed by the minute) dialup is quite cheap.
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| reply to madmatt5
Re: another bad survey...
said by madmatt5 :The numbers fail to account for geography, demographics, and a host of other relevant factors. Compare apples to apples and I'm sure the US would be right up there. Additionally, these days this ranking seems to be just about bragging rights. I really doubt that South Korea has a significant competitive advantage over us simply due to BB coverage... WRONG!
The stats are per capita. Here's a graph:
»www.isen.com/blog/2004/12/us-15t···ita.html
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warriors
It's A Great Time Out
join:2001-06-05
Alviso, CA
| reply to madmatt5
It isn't about "competitive advantage." It's about quality of life. Higher speed can deliver different variety of high tech products. Some people might never need it or desire to have it, but some do.
I want FTTH (1Gbps for $215 US) like Hong Kong residents do! |
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kingroach
join:2004-12-09
Astoria, NY | only if I knew to read chinese/japanese, many of the sites are filles with warez.. forget usenet.. those sites have movies, mp3 in them for free.. but I cannt understand a bit of what is in the forums.. |
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master_rb
join:2004-02-20
Passaic, NJ | reply to Transmaster
Re: I am Going to be very selfish
pointless post |
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