vic102482
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
1 edit | Not right
THat is definatly not right. Especially if someone doesnt even use Inet service they still ahve to pay HOA fees.
And you know what, We are getting FIOS to our entire community, and I have a VERY STRONG suspicion that this will result in the same situation. (I am a huge lover of FIOS, but I will vote against this if it comes to pass).
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX | .
How is this any different than these providers striking up deals with cities for the exclusive right to provide cable/dsl service... you can dress up a pig as much as you want, but a pig is still a pig.
move on |
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| reply to vic102482
Re: Not right
It should not be apart of the HOA agreement really, though if someone moves in to a new home and signs the HOA agreement then it is required. It's kind of like the argument about swim / tennis communites. "We never go swimming so why do we pay higher HOA fees?". Well because you agreed to them when you moved in.
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hadirtyJlo
join:2004-03-31
Elk Grove, CA | good deal
bingo, theres several housing developments in the hampton roads area that are under the preferred provider umbrella, and not just with cox or qwest. im glad to see that someones finally got enough guns to go after them |
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pooker314
join:2005-04-12
Brush Prairie, WA
| check state laws
In many states, developers cannot obligate HOAs to service contracts that last more than a few years beyond turnover of the HOA from the developer to the owners. For example, in Oregon, HOAs can terminate such agreements that go beyond the maximum period of time without penalty. Of course, the HOA would have to take this action (not individual homeowners) but if they were getting screwed badly enough, it shouldn't be difficult to convince enough owners to get the HOA to act (unless they are all employees of the ISP in question). |
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moby866
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join:2000-10-07
Above you
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I moved into a new development last August and I am basically chained to Comcast for TV and internet. I am not allowed to have a dish, and when I asked why they said the owner had made a deal with comcast for them to come in and wire the place up and they would then be the exclusive provider for the area and they would not allow dish to be installed. And as for DSL, SBC won't hook up this area with an RT that can handle DSL, and I highly doubt they will anytime soon either.
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basket case
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join:2005-02-28
right here? | ?
shows just what kind of company they really are to be resorting to such lowball and quite reasonably illeagle buisness practices. must not be worth a crap if they have to stoop to that leval just to drum up future buisness. I HATE CORPORATE GREED! |
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Ga Dawg
join:2003-09-11
Marietta, GA
| reply to moby866
Re: Sorta in the same boat
said by moby866  :I moved into a new development last August and I am basically chained to Comcast for TV and internet. I am not allowed to have a dish, and when I asked why they said the owner had made a deal with comcast for them to come in and wire the place up and they would then be the exclusive provider for the area and they would not allow dish to be installed. And as for DSL, SBC won't hook up this area with an RT that can handle DSL, and I highly doubt they will anytime soon either. No HOA has the authority to deny you a dish.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| reply to technick
Re: Not right
Agreed - however, typically items such as pool/tennis courts are for community use, and not individual use. This is similar to mello roos here in So. Cal, where the developer put in their own roads/streets/infrastructure outside of the city, and owners have to foot the bill themselves. This was done out here in Stevenson Ranch a while back with a community owned cable company offering slow internet, limited cable TV, and higher prices. Eventually they were sold off to TimeWarner (a good thing!). I do think as an HOA member, the HOA should be able to rid the provider if they do not provide adequate service and competitive pricing. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Several locations I know of...
A local apartment owner made a deal where his apartments use exclusively Cox Cable. You simply can't have Bellsouth or any other local provider even though facilities are in place. |
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needforspeed59
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join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ | It's a Two Way Street
Seems like this is not something the phone or cable co's are forcing on the developers. It sounds like a two way negotiated deal.
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
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join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA | Which Justice Department?
Is the article in that local paper speaking of the Arizona state justice department or the United States Department of Justice? |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
·Embarq
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| LAME.
I'd be more pissed with Qworst than with COX, but this is still pretty illegal.
IMHO the whole HOA fee thing should be banned. You're forced to sign it, since pretty much everywhere has one. It's like stealing your money... what if you never use the pool? Baseball field? Park? Why the hell should YOU pay for it...
"Because you signed it" is a stupid reason. They pretty much forced you into signing it. |
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fnord76
join:2002-05-14
Troy, IL
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to bogey780
Re: Several locations I know of...
said by bogey780 :A local apartment owner made a deal where his apartments use exclusively Cox Cable. You simply can't have Bellsouth or any other local provider even though facilities are in place. That is a little different. You shouldn't have this kind of situation when you buy a home. I see that all the time with apartments.
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jwsmiths4
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join:2003-10-25
Savannah, GA
| reply to Tsume
Re: LAME.
And you pretty much picked to live there which gives it validity. Half the reason some of these communities are so nice is that they have active HOAs that make sure the areas look as nice as they do. Not ever HOA is that way, but I've seen quite a few that are.
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woody7
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Torrance, CA
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| reply to navalpatel
Re: .
said by navalpatel :How is this any different than these providers striking up deals with cities for the exclusive right to provide cable/dsl service... you can dress up a pig as much as you want, but a pig is still a pig. move on who says this is right? I'm surprised this is not being investigated..........
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Xelha
join:2004-02-10
Venice, FL | handcuffed
Here in Florida a lot of gated communities have agreements with the cable co. We pay a reduced rate for service. But here digital and internet are billed directly to the consumer. |
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bex
@adelphia.net
| reply to Tsume
Re: LAME.
Should you not pay school tax either if you don't have any kids that go to the public schools? Such is life. I can buy the argument about the broadband aspect because it is a personal service, whereas a swimming pool/tennis courts/etc are community services that everyone shares. |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
·Embarq
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·Comcast
| reply to jwsmiths4
Well, the Oceanside HOA isn't that way, for sure. Not where I live.
There are a lot of services in the HOA that no one in my household does or ever will use. I just don't think you should be paying for something, when you would rather have your money go to something that would benefit the person who earned it.
The problem here is if you want to own a house, but don't want to sign a contract that will take your money and spend more of it on things you'll never even look at then not, well... no house for you. Something wrong there. |
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | Illegal?
Doubtful. Crappy, yes. No one should be caught surprised by this though. Well....ok its scary how often people sign something without reading it first! If you dont like it, dont move there! |
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