Thasp_without_post_w
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| Wow, what a piece of trash!
1150 / 30 = less than 40 minutes/month, about.
Using the phone for less than an hour a day is "excessive"?
Between the shaw, comcast, OOL, and now even voip caps, a large chunk of the internet is becoming a joke. Is it really that hard to let your customers use what they pay for?
If you got cut off for watching your cable more than two hours a day because it was abuse, how would you feel? If your phone company cut you off for using the phone more than an hour a day, how would you feel?
Why does it apply differently with the internet? It shouldn't, and let's show them it shouldn't by putting them into bankrupcy. |
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Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY
 ·RoadRunner Cable
|  Warning: Mathematics Beyond This Point
Hmm. 1150 minutes is just over 19 hours. There are 720 hours in your average month (30 days), or 43200 minutes. So talking for 2.7% of the month is excessive usage?
Oh, good, this gives me a use for my new (patented!) Male Bovine Fecal Matter detector.
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Yep, almost off the scale.
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Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Thasp_without_post_w
Re: Wow, what a piece of trash!
said by Thasp_without_post_w:
1150 / 30 = less than 40 minutes/month, about. Your math is off, I'm afraid. That was 1150 minutes a MONTH, not a YEAR. If it had been per year, there would be peasants with pitchforks and torches storming RocketVOIP's offices this very moment. 
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JoshNJ
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join:2001-12-25
Freehold, NJ
| reply to Thasp_without_post_w
said by Thasp_without_post_w:
Is it really that hard to let your customers use what they pay for? That is the point, residential users AREN'T paying for UNLIMITED use.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| said by JoshNJ :said by Thasp_without_post_w:
Is it really that hard to let your customers use what they pay for? That is the point, residential users AREN'T paying for UNLIMITED use. But didnt they sign up for unlimited use, or did the dictionary defintion of unlimited suddenly change to fit corporate america ? |
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JoshNJ
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join:2001-12-25
Freehold, NJ
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Re: Warning: Mathematics Beyond This Point
said by Rogue Wolf :Hmm. 1150 minutes is just over 19 hours. and considering the average cellphone plan that costs quite a bit more than the $25 voip this guy had, only gives around 300-400 anytime minutes per month (you can argue about night and weekend minutes, but since the cell phone costs a lot more the point is moot), what is the problem? 19 hours per month on the phone is a very long time, especially since most people who have voip probably also have a cellphone that includes tons of night and weekend minutes.
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sun rocket user
@comcast.net | another bait and switch company
let the AG know... more the complains , more chance they will look in to it.
look what happened to bb and late fees |
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JoshNJ
Premium
join:2001-12-25
Freehold, NJ
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Re: Wow, what a piece of trash!
said by DaveNJ :But didnt they sign up for unlimited use they signed up for RESIDENTIAL unlimited use, the situation here seems to be that the company believes that it is unlikely 19 hours on the phone per month is not being used for a business, I base this on the fact that the company sent the guy an email that implies they do not believe he is not using it for business purposes (and he even says in the thread that he NEEDS that many minutes per month)
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
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Re: Warning: Mathematics Beyond This Point
If you have a girlfriend and close family out of the area, 40 minutes a day is nothing.
Your comparison with cell phones is bogus. VoIP outfits do not maintain physical infrastructure such as cell sites, stores, or any of the other myriad bits necessary to construct a viable telecommunication service. These guys leech off people's existing broadband connections and evidently depend on uneducated sheeple who won't demand what they were promised via advertising and purchased when the company tries to weasel out.
Nice try defending these thieves, but you are dead wrong. |
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JoshNJ
Premium
join:2001-12-25
Freehold, NJ
| reply to sun rocket user
Re: another bait and switch company
said by sun rocket user:
look what happened to bb and late fees
nothing really "happened" , their policy hasn't changed, except they apparently went back to the old system in some stores that too many people were bitching at, which is very funny, since returning a dvd a week late probably totals more than buying the thing anyway.
No reasonable person could honestly believe when they said no more late fees, it meant you could rent a movie for $3 and keep it forever at no extra charge whatsoever. People in this crazy country are sue-happy, this crap really needs to stop. If you don't like how 1 company does business, there are 50 others to choose from. Nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions, ignorance is no excuse.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to JoshNJ
Re: Wow, what a piece of trash!
Bullshit.
19 hours a month = ~40 minutes a day. Hardly "business use".
Quit defending these scumbags. You sound like a stockholder. |
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JoshNJ
Premium
join:2001-12-25
Freehold, NJ
| reply to RadioDoc
Re: Warning: Mathematics Beyond This Point
said by RadioDoc :VoIP outfits do not maintain physical infrastructure Of course they do, how do you think a voip line connects into the pots lines so you can call "normal" telephones?
said by RadioDoc :Nice try defending these thieves Thieves? Nobody is stealing anything from anyone, they didn't even automatically charge his card for more money (not that it would matter, if they have it in the terms of service they could do it ad it would not be stealing), they sent him an email giving him a choice of accepting to pay more or walk away.
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sandman2869
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join:2002-10-25
Sterling Heights, MI
| reply to JoshNJ
With my wife's family living in Florida and us living in Michigan, Our phone minutes add up very quickly. I would venture to guess that she is on the phone for AT LEAST two hours every day, what they talk about, who the hell knows, but they are on there haha. Saturdays and Sundays are especially bad because then everyone has all day to chat.
We have SBC Unlimited (I know, different from VOIP) and am very happy about it. Before we had the unlimited plan, we had a $2600 dollar phone bill.
I guess the VOIP service wouldn't like me very much. |
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JoshNJ
Premium
join:2001-12-25
Freehold, NJ
| reply to RadioDoc
Re: Wow, what a piece of trash!
said by RadioDoc :19 hours a month = ~40 minutes a day. Hardly "business use". You are missing something else very important in the equation, the op is making international calls, 19 hours overseas for residential use is even more excessive than calling down the street.
said by RadioDoc :You sound like a stockholder. I never even heard of this voip company until I read the article, thank you very much.
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JoshNJ
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Freehold, NJ
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Re: Warning: Mathematics Beyond This Point
said by sandman2869 :I would venture to guess that she is on the phone for AT LEAST two hours every day... Before we had the unlimited plan, we had a $2600 dollar phone bill. That is just crazy, at that point it is time for a staplegun 
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jarablue
Always be true to yourself
join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA
1 edit | reply to JoshNJ
Re: another bait and switch company
What hell is wrong with you? 40 mintues a day is excessive? Are you smoking crack? I talk more then that with vonage and never heard a peep. 40 minutes a day is nothing. Pure and simple they are ripping him off. If I were him I'd get a dif voip provider. I talked to my now wife back in the day for like 3-5 hours a night. Your telling me 40 minutes is alot? Yeah keep smokin the cheebah dude.
The fact is they stated it was unlimited. And it's not unlimted at all. They should explain that alot better then they currently do. Guarantee they would bleed customers. |
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Eek2121
Lovin Verizon FIOS
join:2002-10-12
Flanders, NJ | Bait and Switch...
This is a classic example of bait and switch. While capping the 'unlimited' plans is legal, bumping users up to more expensive plans is NOT. How long before someone sues rocketvoip? |
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Bio Lizard
join:2004-04-15
Norfolk, VA | reply to Rogue Wolf
Re: Wow, what a piece of trash!
No, his math was right, it was his English that was wrong. Change minutes/month to mintues/day. |
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jarablue
Always be true to yourself
join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA | So your telling me he was talking on the phone 19 hours per day? Hmmmm. I doubt that but if it's true then yeah that is a tad exessive. |
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JoshNJ
Premium
join:2001-12-25
Freehold, NJ
| reply to jarablue
Re: another bait and switch company
said by jarablue :Your telling me 40 minutes is alot? Show me where vonage has international calling that gives you 19 hours per month of included international minutes, for $25 per month, oh wait, they don't, to call even the cheapest international number on vonage for that amount of time would cost $67 per month (cheapest is vonage plan plus per minute fee of .04 for cheapest international rate)
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