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Comments on news posted 2005-04-10 13:30:16: Comcast's joint bid with Time Warner to purchase the bankrupt Adelphia Communications Corp.'s cable system last week faces a potential roadblock, reports the Washington Post (Registration Required). ..

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Derspankster
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Does it make Comcast too big

I hope so. As a current Adelphia customer, and from what I've read about Comcast, I do not want Comcast as my provider!
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TKJunkMail
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 I hope Comcast gets bigger

I hope the 30% rule is NOT reinstated. As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me. Or at least smaller increases.;)
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gpancner

join:2001-09-27
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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

Go Comcast!!! The best cable provider I've ever subscribed to over 20 years(6 total companies). Had DirecTV - hated it, and it cost more than Comcast. Have seen DISH, and does their equipment seem cheap (like their subscribers - never met a non-whiney dish network customer).


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said by gpancner See Profile:

Had DirecTV - hated it, and it cost more than Comcast.
It is obvious that you have NOT had Direct - TV anytime soon. I was paying over $80 per month for COmcast for the channels I like to watch. Discovery channels, TLC, and others of the like.. I pay $45 per month to Direct TV for the same channels. I am not a movie channel subscriber and the 4 room setup I purchased was free.

So just tell me how it is more expensive to have Direct TV than Comcast??
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richk_1957
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

said by TKJunkMail See Profile:

The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get.
That's why I am for the 30% limit. They get bigger & bigger and they make they make the decisions, not you. Sure, as any company gets larger, they will be able to cut prices, but at what cost?

(I may be biased a little in this as I am not a Comcast customer, wouldn't be, don't like the way they do business & treat their customers)


FTCXtreme

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I hope comcast dies to be honest. THEY SUCK


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile:

As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me.
yeah right. show me one case in which a huge corporation gave its customers discounts after they save a ton of money by using their power to get volume savings. IT NEVER HAPPENS.
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1992rules

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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

the 1992 rules no longer apply since there is competition from satellite providers 2 of them... and big rbocs that will eventually be in every part of the country with video.... now there could be some consent decrees tha only allow ownership where an rboc is providing video services... as one caveat to ownership beyond 30% but its not really necessary


rtherocks
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

Comcast discounts now that will be the day.For the most part thay are way over priced IMHO.I think thay should Lower(I have the 5 meg plan) the high speed 4 meg price to $19.95 for every one.I would have no problem signing up for a year at that price. I think that would knock out AOL,Net Zero and the like who in ther right mind would pay $24.00 or $14.95 for sub 56k speeds when you can get 4 meg for $19.95.If Comcast wants to be top dog then do what is right lower the price and and grow faster....

ltt75

join:2001-01-22
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With Verizon starting up Video service this year. The 1992 Cable act is no longer valid. There will be sufficient competition. Customers will have a choice of serveral Video providers: Satelite, MaBell(Verizon/SBC/etc), or local cable company. Times have changed.


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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

Wal-Mart?


csnewbie

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Atlanta, GA
reply to morbo
i agree, you won't get savings. comcast sucks.

i was paying $42 with ATTBI, then comcast bought ATTBI, and my internet bill shot up to $ 57.95


Topmounter
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I agree.

The bigger Comcast gets, the slower they move, opening the door wider and wider for Dish and Telco competition.

My only concern over the long-term is content ownership rights. I would hate to see Comcast getting additional "exclusive rights" to programming.

Of course after they got their hands on TechTV, it wasn't worth watching anymore anyway.

Newegg
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What about the Adelphia forum

Is it just going to get deleted and depending on who the former Adelphia customers have for their ISP being Comcast or TW they will post in the corresponding forum?
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shimonmor

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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

If Comcast gets bigger then the only one to win is Comcast. If you think that you will get "better deals and lower costs" then you are seriously deluded.

I am never a big fan of government regulation. I think we have too much government which leads to too much inefficiency, too much waste, too much corruption and on and on. But sometimes some regulation is needed to protect the general public from large corporation taking advantage.

In an ideal world, we the customers should be able to control Comcast since we can vote with our wallets. Unfortunately, in some areas people do not have a choice so they can't, in essence, vote. If large companies like Comcast are able to stifle or buy up smaller companies then there is no hope for the consumer.

I would like to see an outside party buy up Adelphia and fix her up. If I had the money I would. But alas....


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said by morbo See Profile:

said by TKJunkMail See Profile:

As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me.
yeah right. show me one case in which a huge corporation gave its customers discounts after they save a ton of money by using their power to get volume savings. IT NEVER HAPPENS.
So very true.
The only ones that will see the savings are the share holders.
Comcast has already proven they can price themselves above the competition and remain healthy.
If this deal goes through Fios is my only hope to keep pricing down.


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Man some of you may me sick!

I think it's funny how all of the Telco worshippers here can't wait for the day that the Telco swoops in and saves the day. (Let me remind you all how telco, just in the not too far past, was severly lashed out at because of they way they treated the consumer.) Remember the court ordered break up of Ma Bell?

You think the telephone companies are going to be any better? You think that their large business model is going to be any better than the large cable tv business model?

It's obvious from the amount of senceless whining that goes on here from the same handfull of people here that what you really want is a social society where everyone is on an even playing field.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that every man woman and child has a god-given right to broadband access at a price you want to pay does it? All you whiners realize that it cost money to build all this future, state of the art broadband network don't you? Have ANY of you whiners opened your eyes and taken a look at the number of providers in the last 5 years alone that have gone under trying to deliver a product to you at a price "you want to pay?" (which is far less than the cost to operate such a network) Yea.. let's allow companies to price themselves right out of business to the point that the taxpayer has to subsidize these corporate giants into existance again. Wow! Higher taxes! Waaahoo!

Bottom line, if you don't like the price you pay for internet, if you don't like the price of television, then cancel you service, put up the FREE antenna and go back to the $9.99 NetZero dial up access and be happy for once.

Let's put it this way.. you want to play with the big toys, you have to pay.

One more note to all you "boo hoo, Comcast raised my internet fee when they bought AT&T"... first, the price didn't change for NON-CABLE TV customers. It was always about $10.00 more per month. You guys also focus on how it's "more expensive" to have just internet without TV. The PRICE FOR INTERNET BROADBAND IS THE $57.00 price, NOT the $42.00 price. If you can read, and I know you can, their rate cards specifically state that internet is $57.00, $42 IF you purchase cable. It's called bundling. Oh, news flash, Satellite has a broadband option. Look at their price?

Some of you here make me sick listening to you. Thank god I am smart enough to realize that you are a VERY small portion of the demo out there.. so much more than less and a percent.

Oh, and if you are wondering why I am so harsh? I used to like this site years ago when it started. It has been taken over by a handfull of (what seems) emotional, uneducated people that have no one else to listen to their unfounded and unrealistic compaints that they can only get the few others that agree with them here to listen!

Why don't you whiners stand back and re-read your own words in a few weeks - you just might see how stupid you really sound!

I have Comcast for my ISP. I have had Comcast for year! I have NEVER had a problem with this company. Maybe some of you have, but that's life. Not everything is perfect. (Take a look at yourselves sometime would ya) - I think that Comcast charges a respectable fee for what is offered. I also know that there is a cost involved in running a system. I also know they they have to pay their venders what they ask for as well which is a majority of what drives the cost. I also now know, after listening to you whiners, that companies like Comcast have to give away a bunch of "free" stuff to shut you up in the name of competition. Think about it.. NOTHING IS FREE! Next time you post that "cable raises 3.5% again" message.. just remember all those free repair visits on YOUR inside wiring (that is legally YOURS, not theirs) or the I want a free month service because of a few hours of down time crap that you guys pull... or the "cableman was 5 minutes late so I want it free crap!" And you wonder why rates rise? It cost money to run a system in the utopia way that the minority whiners here think it should be run!

I seriously can't understand you people sometime.

Oh,.. and since some of you can't comprehend some of my statements here, at the end of my post here, I would like to remind those handfull that I said SOME of you and refer mostly to the insessive WHINERS here.. NOT EVERYONE!

So, in closing, .... to some of you... wait for the big bell companies to come and save you.. I know for one that I wouldn't hold my breath! To this day, I have see MANY more problems in getting phone service to be static free and my DSL (when I had it) to stay up and running without error before I cancelled it after the typical support call would result in "it's your problem, sir, not ours!)

Enjoy your saviours!


hobgoblin
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Re: What about the Adelphia forum

Firstly its NOT a done deal, I have only seen speculation so far.
Secondly the process will take forever.
Thirdly as you appear to have Verizon Fios, I doubt it will concern you.

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deadmeat
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Sonoma, CA

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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

said by TKJunkMail See Profile:

I hope the 30% rule is NOT reinstated. As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me. Or at least smaller increases.;)
Or the more they jack up the price....


TScheisskopf
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You have to understand, these projections are based upon doctrinaire, blue-sky economic theory; theory that presupposes that natural monopolies do not exist in the markets that companies like Comcast service. Of course, as we all are painfully aware, these natural monopolies DO exist and the companies like Comcast use them to whipsaw everyone in sight.

Oh and note: another name for government regulation is "laws". Laws exist, in business, to level the playing field and make sure that competition that benefits us, the customers, remains in the marketplace. They also exist to make these companies be good citizens with the other citizens of the country. They also allow small companies, the traditional providers of revolutionary "disruptive technologies", to gain a foothold and thrive.

Right now, the depressing of competition in the info-marketplace is drawing real blood from customers, in the form of fees and the lack of state-of-the-art technologies being deployed in any meaningful amounts. This is because of the existance of regional natural monopolies.

Don't always believe the hype from the punditry. They are naturally going to talk up the philosophies of those who buy ad time on their radio and TV shows. By and large, they are slaves to the status quo. Those who aren't slaves to said status quo are marginalized, in some cases appropriately and in some cases not.
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