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Comments on news posted 2005-04-07 13:35:33: We've been counting down what we believe to be the top ten problems that beset the United States broadband industry, one problem at a time. Gripe Number Two: Give us Naked DSL, stop ripping off customers who need but one service. ..

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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
You forgot one.....

Naked connections (cable included.)


SpitefulCrow
Insert Witty Tag Here
Premium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA
Why is this news?

These are complaints that you can find posted on any story on this website. I don't think we need them reposted as news.

cool_coda

join:2004-09-08
Brownsburg, IN
This top 10 list is a joke.


entropy1
Premium
join:2002-09-25
Agreed.


owndering

@comcast.net

It costs more that this!

"$45-$50 a month for a stand-alone cable-broadband connection or VoIP service is ridiculous."

HEH! that is what it costs for internet with their stupid TV discount!

For comcast it is just under $60 for internet alone and that is for the basic tier.

You are right about the ridiculous part though.

The only decent bundling I have seen was from WOW, but they are such a small company that they won't change the way things are done on anything other than a neighborhood level.
And that is if they are known about.


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
reply to entropy1
Re: Why is this news?

Yeah OMG Where's "Fr33 War3z" in this list!

I'm not even old enough to drink, much less understand this complaint, but I'm sure I don't like it!

/sarcasm

Ga Dawg

join:2003-09-11
Marietta, GA

said by Minister See Profile:

Yeah OMG Where's "Fr33 War3z" in this list!
Well, they haven't gotten to #1 yet.


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting

reply to owndering
Re: It costs more that this!

If I recall, Time Warner charged something close to that until Earthlink started undercutting them and actually offering a cheaper stand-alone connection! In that case only the fact that they were forced - as part of the AOL merger - to share their lines brought the prices down. And it's still $45.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
Preach it!

What makes it so funny is I don't even have a TV cause i don't watch TV! lol Get a clue Charter and everyone else! $10 extra month for someone who does not care about TV itself is dumb.

nuff said!


seaman
Premium
join:2000-12-08
Seattle, WA

reply to SpitefulCrow
Re: Why is this news?

said by SpitefulCrow See Profile:

These are complaints that you can find posted on any story on this website. I don't think we need them reposted as news.
Your right. This isnt news. It is an on-going feature commentary or article. I suspect the purpose of which is to inform the *average* visitor to BBR (not the telco professional or everyday broadband news junkie). As an IT person who doesnt spend much time monitoring the telco industry I have appreciated the author's discussion of some of the major hurdles facing *average* broadband consumers. Please dont drop in on a thread just to drop negative comments. Please keep in mind that it is much harder to actually produce something than it is to critique it.


diehardspeed
Premium
join:2003-05-14
Salt Lake City, UT
What about Cable?

Ummm well since DSL is not even available at all where I am. I don't see how this is #2

Finally have cable but well, they have no competition so I really have no choice!


technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
reply to moonpuppy
Re: You forgot one.....

Naked connections are important, and I would pair this along with speed increases, better technical support, and consumer education.


Voyager2K2

join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy See Profile:

Naked connections (cable included.)
No that wouldn't be in line with DSLR's policy of Bell bashing.
Naked cable is like #1,246 or something.


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
"Naked Cable" would be unbundled cable, which already exists. They don't force you to take VoIP.

Did you actually read the article? It's talking about cable as well.


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
reply to diehardspeed
Re: What about Cable?

quote:
What about Cable?
RTFA!


Voyager2K2

join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to Minister
Re: You forgot one.....

said by Minister See Profile:

"Naked Cable" would be unbundled cable, which already exists. They don't force you to take VoIP.

Did you actually read the article? It's talking about cable as well.
Isn't charging a premium for those who wish cable Internet service without CATV the same thing?
Kinda works out to the same fee (basic telephone VS. non-CATV HSI)
Read down the posts here.

I mean it's still fees being charged for not bundling services.


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting

quote:
Isn't charging a premium for those who wish cable Internet service without CATV the same thing?
That's exactly what the article talks about, and criticizes the cable industry for it! Yet you slam them (obviously without reading it) for "bell bashing"?


thender2
Glamour Profession
Premium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY

reply to cool_coda
Re: Why is this news?

said by cool_coda See Profile:

This top 10 list is a joke.
I agree.

Unless #1 is "no more transfer limits unless properly documented and with details visibile while purchasing the package", this list means NOTHING to me.

If actually backing up your claims of progress(higher speeds) isn't important, then what is?
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Estragon

join:2003-06-20
Greenville, NH
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 reply to diehardspeed
What about Dialup?

If you are stuck in dialup hell, then all of #10 through #2 are irrelevant!


J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI

Provider/Location Specific Pricing

$45-$50 a month for a stand-alone cable-broadband connection or VoIP service is ridiculous.

In my location, residential stand-alone cable-broadband runs $39.99 to $54.99 per month from one provider and $57.95 to $67.95 per month from the other (pricing for both providers is without modem rental). There are both provider-specific and location-specific influences on the stand-alone rates for cable broadband.

Short of Federal Regulation of Broadband, I'm not really certain of the mechanism to enable "Naked DSL" in all areas or eliminate higher pricing of stand-alone cable broadband and stand-alone DSL. With any luck, the Supreme Court's pending ruling on Brand-X may offer some insight into the Court's opinion of current law and regulation with respect to broadband.
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