trs23
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Chicago, IL | Like this will work?
Voluntary tax? Yeah right. |
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GreggE
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Mid Tenn | Download Tax
Another money hungry state trying to milk the cash cow. I don't understand how this would be "voluntary" though. I don't think it will ever go through, as surely no one would voluntarily pay this. |
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entropy1
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join:2002-09-25 | Huh?
Did I fall asleep sitting here and slip into the twilight zone? Is this for real? Hahahaha! A voluntary tax....that's just too much. Good luck.  |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to GreggE
Re: Download Tax
Won't work. The only way that it 'could' work is if the business was based out of that state, and what business in their right mind would want to. |
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CrazyFingers
join:2003-10-01
Columbia, MO
1 edit | Read the article!
BBR left out a rather important bit of info in their headline:
Gov. Jim Doyle wants you to pay Wisconsin's 5% sales tax whenever you pay to download a song, book, movie or piece of art.
Notice the "pay to download" part? Changes the tone a bit, eh?
Still a retarded law though... |
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trebzon
join:2001-09-03
Grandville, MI
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Re: Download Tax
said by GreggE  :Another money hungry state trying to milk the cash cow. I don't understand how this would be "voluntary" though. I don't think it will ever go through, as surely no one would voluntarily pay this. That is the way these tax sneaks always work. First few years it is "voluntary" meaning you put on your tax form what you think you spent and then pay the state. 5 years later it is not so voluntary....and you are tracked, fined and jailed.
I despise the phony "its voluntary, or its non-invasive" arguments.
If you are going to tax or ban something just do it. Don't play word games. That just insults me. |
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technick
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Loganville, GA | reply to trs23
Re: Like this will work?
So that means I don't have to pay it even if I lived in Wisconsin. So well if it's optional, i'll never pay. But then again, why the hell are they taxing stupid things like this on the internet? Stupid law makers... Tax Beer! |
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Re: Read the article!
Ooops. Posted wrong. Anyway...it's still silly whether it says "pay" or not.
Piece of what? Haha! I'm going...I'm going...
(Ugh...here goes the wild BBR behavior again. It's causing me to have problems posting. Please pardon me. Wish this crap would stop.) |
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ff1324
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The whole thing seems cheesy to me. I mean, it's got more holes than swiss, smells like limburger, and it just plain makes me bleu...:D
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Re: Like this will work?
said by technick :Stupid law makers... Tax Beer! Beer is already severily taxed, here in Canada I think the figure approaches 50% that the gov't rapes on tax.
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d4man
join:2001-08-24
Youngstown, PA | reply to trs23
Voluntary tax? HAHA!!! Federal income taxes are voluntary too! See what happens if you file a $ 0.00 1040 return! Dont get me started on taxes. Just another example of the idiotic bureaucracies to pick your pockets...... |
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pipdipchip
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join:2003-12-04
Hanover, MN
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Maybe I'm missing something but how is Wisconsin going to justify this cost? They don't own the internet or pay to keep it up or anything. Unless I'm missing something, I don't understand how you could tax downloads. It's a private service and not state run or owned...
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Re: Like this will work?
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Voluntary tax? HAHA!!! Federal income taxes are voluntary too! See what happens if you file a $ 0.00 1040 return!
a closer analogy is when the tax preparer asks "did you buy anything off the internet that you didn't pay sales tax on?" or "any undeclared gambling earnings?"
but either way, it won't work, just like the other voluntary taxes |
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GreggE
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Mid Tenn
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Re: Missing Something?
I don't know if they have sales tax in Wisconsin, but if they do, they don't own the store, pay rent, or pay wages...same concept. They're just looking for MORE money instead of looking at controlling spending on stupid programs a few get the benefit of. Taxes just frustrate me!  |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
1 edit | reply to d4man
Re: Like this will work?
You are misguided. File a return of $0 and see how long it is before you end up being fined and/or even jailed. You may get away with it for a while, but eventually Uncle Sam WILL come knocking and they won't use lubercation.
I don't agree with the entire tax system, but there is a need for it. Try going a day or even 1/2 a day without utilizing something that your tax dollars don't help provide in one way or another.
Taxing user's for these downloads is silly. Is this an RIAA and MPAA subsidy tax or is this something to actually improve the well being of the people? It would not suprise me if something like this starts up. Just like some states (California for example) that are attempting to force resellers to collect and pay taxes to them if they sell goods to their residents even if the business has no physical presence there. They do this because virtually all states put that obligation on the buyer of the state. Obviously this is voluntary and not paid so they want to force us to do it for them. |
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internetlol2
join:2005-01-04
Fairfax, VA
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Re: Missing Something?
So if you get audited what will they look at? Your browser History and cache?
The term "voluntary" as applied to taxes means that you declare what your liability is, as opposed to being sent a bill. It does not mean it's up to you whether or not you want to comply with the tax code.
Technically you're supposed to pay Sales & Use tax on items you bring into the state tax-free. They almost never go after individuals, but they will audit businesses. (at least here in Virginia) |
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Omega
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Wouldn't this make P2P legal since your paying a tax on it?
I believe if this tax was implemented, then Wisconsin would have a similar situation to what Canada has right now.
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hrobins
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Regina, SK
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Re: Like this will work?
Boy ain't that the truth!!!! Here in Sask they really tax the living crap out of beer/wine/etc |
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Fraoch
join:2003-08-01
London, ON
2 edits | reply to Omega
Re: Wouldn't this....
said by Omega :I believe if this tax was implemented, then Wisconsin would have a similar situation to what Canada has right now. ?
I don't pay tax on downloads. I pay taxes on everything else though.:(
Do you mean it will make downloads of copyright material legal? That's the last court ruling on the subject in Canada (uploads are illegal) but I doubt that this would happen. |
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ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA | Another _$$-clown?
Is this idiot for real? Why not jusy cook the books and make up a dozen more voluntary taxes while he is _$$ at it!?! |
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