  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA | Blah Blah Blah
Whomever needs to get on the ball and start laying this fiber to more than a few select areas. SBC is doing nothing here, Verizon? Right! Not holding my breath.  |
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 eowen Premium join:2004-05-12 Temecula, CA | hmm
if you ask me, id say thats good news to DSLEx. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | Well it's at least some indication that the next-gen broadband battles won't be pure duopoly....close, but not quite..... |
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  David No,there is another. Premium,VIP join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL clubs:
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working with DSLExtreme on the site here for a while now, so this is not a suprising development. They have contacted me on a couple of occasions, and Matthew on a few different occasions as well.
George and his team are cool to work with.. Kudos to george and the team. Hope to see you soon on the ADSL2 or lightspeed front.. -- If you have a topic in the direct forum please reply to it or a post of mine, I get a notification when you do this. My 2005 ford Escape and general dealership experience |
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  zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA 1 edit | reply to dadkins Re: Blah Blah Blah
Verizon share Its fiber? I don't think so, If They had to Cable would have to share theirs too. |
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well, i now local telcos and DSL providers have to share their lines with other DSL ISP's (IndiaLink come to mind) and if memory serves, it is an FCC rule somewhere that states a provider who installs "x" lines has sole use of those lines for "x" period of time, then they must open them up to other providers. which makes sense from a competition point of view, and certainly those providers will get a piece of the customers fee anyhow,... |
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  JTRockville Data Ho Premium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD clubs: | reply to zoom314 Re: Blah Blah Blah
Maybe Verizon will share their fiber because it's economically feasible, rather than because it's legislated?
The current legislation is pretty clear: they don't have to share. But I don't think it prevents them from sharing. |
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  zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA
| said by JTRockville :Maybe Verizon will share their fiber because it's economically feasible, rather than because it's legislated? The current legislation is pretty clear: they don't have to share. But I don't think it prevents them from sharing. I agree, But profit is what They[Verizon] are after, So DSLExtreme would have to be more expensive to be viable over Fios I'd think. -- Firefox forever!»mysite.verizon.net/zoom314/ |
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| Same goes for DSL, no? Maybe DSLExtreme will be able to offer me something Verizon doesn't.
So I could choose:
• Verizon, providing maximum Verizon profit, or • Someone Verizon doesn't lease to, providing zero Verizon profit, or • Someone Verizon leases to, providing some Verizon profit.
Maybe it could work? For sure, it's interesting to think about. |
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  zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA | And be only $30 or so dollars per month? That's what I pay with Verizon for 1.5M/384k DSL service right now. -- Firefox forever!»mysite.verizon.net/zoom314/ |
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  JTRockville Data Ho Premium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD clubs:
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1 edit | I don't know what DSLExtreme's pricing is, or what their fiber price would be. But certainly they already have DSL customers, despite their ILEC's offering, no?
Right now Verizon offers me zip (except for a copper voice line). So if FiOS ever becomes available, it'll be a good thing. It'll be a fabulous thing if I can pick the vendor though. I've heard pretty horrible things about VZs support (though my experience hooking up my brother's DSL was smooth). Still, I'd be willing to pay a premium to another provider if they offer good support.
If other players jump into the ring, there might be folks who pick someone like Speakeasy because of their sharing policy.
I can think of tons of reasons someone might want an alternate provider, and be willing to pay more for the service. |
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  dslwanter Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH Premium join:2002-12-16 Lowellville, OH
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| reply to dadkins said by dadkins :Whomever needs to get on the ball and start laying this fiber to more than a few select areas. SBC is doing nothing here, Verizon? Right! Not holding my breath. Amen! Talk is about as worthless as the bum that's out on the street. -- "and he will raise you up, on eagles wings, there you are the breath of dawn, make you to shine like the sun, and hold you in the palm, of his hands" |
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  Frank is chilling Premium join:2000-11-03 somewhere | How is this even remotely possible?
Honestly,
I dont really see many isps being able to sell service over verizon fios. How many isps in this country even have the necessary bandwidth to support 1000 customers @ 15mbps/2mbps @ $45 and make a profit??? |
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  zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA
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said by JTRockville :I don't know what DSLExtreme's pricing is, or what their fiber price would be. But certainly they already have DSL customers, despite their ILEC's offering, no? Right now Verizon offers me zip (except for a copper voice line). So if FiOS ever becomes available, it'll be a good thing. It'll be a fabulous thing if I can pick the vendor though. I've heard pretty horrible things about VZs support (though my experience hooking up my brother's DSL was smooth). Still, I'd be willing to pay a premium to another provider if they offer good support. If other players jump into the ring, there might be folks who pick Speakeasy because of their sharing policy. I can think of tons of reasons someone might want an alternate provider, and be willing to pay more for the service. If there is another vendor and You want to go with them then do so, Me when Fios comes here to Yermo or to Hesperia I'll stick with good ole Verizon. As to Verizons tech support, Some are not so good, some are good and some are real good and caring, It's just pot luck when one calls. So I'll stay with Verizon as I'm not well off quite yet, Although I will be soon enough and I won't have to do a thing to get that way(Whether I Like It or not, It will happen). -- Firefox forever!»mysite.verizon.net/zoom314/ |
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  JTRockville Data Ho Premium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD clubs:
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| That's what's great about choices. My brother's use is very lite, and not very critical, so Verizon's $30 1.5/~somethingorother is perfect for him. I doubt he'd be interested in FiOS even if it were deployed to him because of the price (lowest offering is $40).
For me, it's all about reliability. As a full-time telecommuter, I don't suffer outages well. Spending time trying to convince tier1 that there is an outage is time I'd rather spend working.
My personal experience with Verizon has been good, so if I ever get FiOS, even if I have a choice, I'd probably go with Verizon initially. But what I really need is HO service (home office) - and I'll pay extra to avoid the initial dance with tier1 support. |
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  zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA
| As to reliability, Verizon has been good to Me, I have more problems with SCE during a thunderstorm than I do with Verizon and SCE is back on within a minute or two out here. -- Firefox forever!»mysite.verizon.net/zoom314/ |
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  JTRockville Data Ho Premium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD clubs: | That's good to hear. Frankly, I'm hoping that whenever Verizon decides to bestow FiOS on me, I'll be able to sign up, install will go fairly smooth, and I'll never have to call support. It sure would be nice to have service for $40. |
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would you want a wannabe provider, when the real deal is already cheaper and will stay that way |
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  zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA | reply to JTRockville Re: Blah Blah Blah
Same here, Except I think I'll be going for the max speed rate available as It won't cost Me that much then. -- Firefox forever!»mysite.verizon.net/zoom314/ |
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  JTRockville Data Ho Premium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD clubs: 1 edit | The max speed for Verizon FiOS is 30/5 for $200. |
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