KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
 ·Comcast
| Typical...
quote:
"Cablevision reserves the right to protect the integrity of its network and resources by any means it deems appropriate. This includes but is not limited to: port blocking, e-mail virus scanning, denying e-mail from certain domains, and putting limits on bandwidth and e-mail."
Basicly, like a lot of cable ISP TOS's, they're telling the customer that it's their network and they can do anything they want at their sole discression.  |
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sirsloop
Premium
join:2004-02-18
New York, NY | pisses me off
I love all of their ads on TV about how they are #1....
This sums it up.
»Review of Optimum Online by sirsloop
screw OOL
more like optimum a-holes. |
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
·Comcast
| reply to KeepOnRockin
Re: Typical...
I think the front page of BBR right now says it all, lol  |
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rogue_
I Have A Secret Window
Premium
join:2001-10-17
Lake Hiawatha, NJ
| Damn thiefs
Looks like it's back to VZ land again. I knew this would always be a game of the grass is greener on the other side. OOL had it for a while but now it's back in VZ's court. I'm sorry, but for the price and the now piss poor speed and service, VZ looks much better than OOL.
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Oxygen
Times Square can't shine as bright
Premium
join:2001-12-04
Nesconset, NY
| Cablevision Is Stupid
They are idiots.
When people upload/download alot it has no effect on their network, they just have to pay their bandwidth providers more money. Once again, they are idiots.
When FIOS comes around, I will gladly set their cable modem on fire.
GO FIOS!
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sirsloop
Premium
join:2004-02-18
New York, NY | reply to sirsloop
Re: pisses me off
I'm switching to satelite TV and getting some other type of internet service. Maybe patriot cable if they are available... |
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Sebastian
Premium
join:2000-12-22
New Haven, CT
| reply to sirsloop
woohoo to comcast.
»/speedtests/62···10319202
its not 10/1 -- but i'd rather have 6/768 with no throttling.
i have yet to be capped or warned for "excessive" use and for $52 a month its not bad.. consider the switch if available.
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline
| Denial is what will hurt them
The fact that they are not owning up to what they are doing is the worse disservice they can do. Never put the blame on the person paying you.
Everytime someone calls and OOL says, "there is no problem", they are effectively saying, "The problem is YOU!" That is something that should never happen.
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| reply to KeepOnRockin
Re: Typical...
I agree that the front page says it all. They have definatly screwed the goat on this one, and their is only one way to redeem itself. Remove the caps, and beg for forgiveness. Otherwise, OOL will become old news, kinda like toilet paper flushed down the toilet.
I checked out most of the reviews, and they all look legit, people who have registered for over a year, etc.. well God Speed to those people who are forced to switch accounts. I hope someone has taken the time to call their corporate center to bitch at them. I know I would give them an ear full, heck, I don't even use them and im motivated to tell them where they can stick it.
Good Luck |
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sirsloop
Premium
join:2004-02-18
New York, NY
·Optimum Online
| reply to KeepOnRockin
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| reply to KeepOnRockin
Noticed that too and figured it was only a matter of time before it was a news item on DSLR.
However the amount people are being throttled should eventually be seen in the archive which so far isn't showing a significant impact from throttling.
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Fountainhead
Premium
join:2003-10-25
New York, NY
clubs: | reply to DaSneaky1D
Re: Denial is what will hurt them
I have a general loathing toward Cablevision...
It's time for cable choice in NJ.
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AbBaZaBbA
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Wildomar, CA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Oxygen
Re: Cablevision Is Stupid
actually uploading does affect the network. ever wonder why most cable isp's only give out 256 or 386 upload when dsl is up to 768 now? On a cable network only one modem can only upload at a time. Which means if you have lots of users uploading it slows the network considerably. This is not the case with download as they can just allocate more frequency for it. |
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odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs:
·Comcast
·Metrocast Communic..
 ·Vonage
| reply to Oxygen
said by Oxygen  :When people upload/download alot it has no effect on their network, they just have to pay their bandwidth providers more money. Once again, they are idiots. not exactly, the users share the upstream port. when a user uploads he takes a percentage of the upstream capacity. when they download they take a percentage of the downstream. this is all shared with hundreds of other users. 4 people downloading at 10Mbps kills the entire downstream.(QAM256 = ~40Mbps @~800-1200 users) unless OOL is using 16QAM on the upstream they share 5Mbps with 100-200 modems. If 5 people decide to upload bam the upstream is saturated.
I never understood how OOL even did 100% 10/1 cable modems. You have to throw a hell of a lot of metal at the network to make those numbers work. It seems they've gotten sick of burning metal on the network and decided to manage the users with policies. This was just a matter of time before they had to do it, i'm really surprised it took them this long.
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Jovi
join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA
 ·T-Mobile US
| reply to KeepOnRockin
Re: Typical...
said by KeepOnRockin :I think the front page of BBR right now says it all, lol OUCH!
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odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs:
·Comcast
·Metrocast Communic..
·Vonage
1 edit | reply to AbBaZaBbA
Re: Cablevision Is Stupid
said by AbBaZaBbA :actually uploading does affect the network. ever wonder why most cable isp's only give out 256 or 386 upload when dsl is up to 768 now? On a cable network only one modem can only upload at a time. Which means if you have lots of users uploading it slows the network considerably. This is not the case with download as they can just allocate more frequency for it. thats the nature of any TMDA network, people take a timeslot. bear in mind each second has thousand of timeslots, so as each modem finishes talking the next starts. you can most certainly have hundreds of modems uploading simultaneously. It starts to be a problem when the channels capacity starts to approach 75%+. each user never sees the TDMA nature of the network and the uploads never stop and wait, until critical saturation is hit. Ethernet works in a similar way using CSMA/CD each ethernet card cannot talk at the same time, but you would never tell as the mechanism works so quickly.
Most cable ISP still stick to a single downstream, but will reduce the amount of modems on the given downstreams.
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odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs:
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Optimized
Premium,Mod
join:2001-05-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
clubs:
Host:
RCN
Patriot Media
Cellphones, Provid..
Other Manufacturers
| reply to KeepOnRockin
Re: Typical...
While true, wouldn't it be nice if the ISP's made things clear to their subscribers before pushing new controls in place. I have always been a "raving fan" when it comes to OOL, I'm not too sure I still feel the same of late.
I will likely look at FiOS when it arrives in town.
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York
·PHONE POWER
·Broadvox Direct
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Haven't had this happen to me yet
But I'm sure it will at some point. I'm no heavy downloader or gamer, but for the got damned $50 per month, I sure would expect full throughput through a 500MB file download. That's certainly some bullshit right there.
I did just discover that Verizon isn't trying their sleazy tactics of bundling with FIOS like they do with DSL, so it may be worth a shot once it hits my neck of the woods. |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
Premium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
| And this is a surprise?
They were capping uploads, which means their nodes are overloaded because they offer service they can't provide.
Comcast does this too with overloaded nodes. So does Shaw cable now, which is in Canada.
It's cable. You don't get the same level of quality you do with other broadband. You may see higher speeds at lower prices, but in the end it winds up with transfer limits, throttling, abuse letters, and node overloads.
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