KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
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join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
 ·Comcast
| Here We Go Again
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Cable Vs. DSL
Come on, why must they be competing all the time?
Cable and DSL are both great broadband technologies. I don't care who's in the "lead".
I like my cable service but some other people may like dsl better. Different preferences for different people. |
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fundamentalz
The Basics
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join:2004-04-30
Moorpark, CA
| DSL > Cable
IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. You really cant rely on sharing with all your neighbors. If only they could get around the distance issues, dsl would be much more dominant
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Amr
Pointing out the obvious
Premium
join:2001-12-03
Wichita, KS
clubs: 
| well duh
cause its companies like sbc who are little bitches and won't make a CO near my house because "comcast" already owns that land. pfft little would they know that i'd hop on the dsl bandwagon and same as about 5K people if they found out dsl was availabe because were all tired of comcast and there dumb fees |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
1 edit | Verizon -- and the rest of 'em
Verizon has the problem solved -- for good with Fiber to the Premise (FTTP). So what the heck is SBC and BellSouth trying to prove. Maybe they like the Cable Co's holding the lead?
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nivago
Think For Yourself
join:2000-11-16
Little Rock, AR | Re: Cable vs. DSL
and?  |
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thisismyname1
join:2004-07-26
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| When distance is less of a problem with DSL....
The distance is still a HUGE issue with DSL even in big cities.
I live in Chicago, IL which ranks about 5 in the top cities of the USA with the highest population and they have trouble providing me the 3Mbps/512Kbps package they have and in the end could provide nothing which is a huge company by the name of SBC.
I still think DSL won't take the lead anytime soon in this. |
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Sean
join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
 ·Bell Sympatico
| DSL's better, read on.
DSL when handled right IMO is the better technology because of it's "dedicated" nature. There are fewer potential bottlenecks on a DSL network than on a cable network. Cable has the CMTS, nodes and god knows whatelse. Thing is, there's no "port" limit on those things so the Co's can just keep packing customers on.
DSL doens't allow for that because there are port limits on the DSLAMSs, so obersubscribing - hardware wise - isn't possible.
AFAIK Cable Co's run fibre all the way up o their nodes, then use coax for "the last mile" to the user. If The Bells ran fibre to a neighbourhood DSLAM then ran copper for "the last mile" they'd definately have the stronger network. |
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Cop
Premium
join:2001-09-05
Auburn, AL
·Charter Pipeline
| I think the bigest reason why dsl is not in the lead is because of the amount of people who still cant get dsl but can get cable. Ive been wanting dsl ever since i got broadband back in 2000. Still waiting for bellsouth.
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
| I gave up on DSL for my home 5 years ago when I used an SDSL service but Verizon eventually told me the lines in my Street (they are underground)are disintegrating and the copper needs replacing. (Verizon also told me they wee a Voice company and NOT a Data company!). Well 5 years on they still try to sell me services over the same copper. Now I use Cable Broadband and VoIP. |
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fegul
Premium
join:2004-08-23
united state
| Regional
In my area, Qwest has some serious DSL connectivity issues. Comcast is never out for me. My friend got DSL a couple weeks ago, and within that time it was out for a day. I have another friend who only had access for 5 minutes at midnight, and another whose DSL was out for several days. In my neighborhood, cable is superior.
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
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join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
clubs:
|  Cable is better than ISDN!
In my opinion, Cable modem Internet service beats ISDN's ass. Unless the cable modem is running 128k up - 64k down.
DSL is better than cable when the local DSL provider sucks less than the local cable provider.
Cable is better than DSL when the local cable provider sucks less than the local DSL provider.
DSL is better than cable when you can't get that damn coaxial cable to your premises.
Cable is better than DSL when you live less than 1,000 feet from your central office but a certain phone company doesn't put a DSLAM in it because they are as broke as hell.
Coca-Cola is better than Pepsi! 
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FDM80
join:2001-07-16
Silver Spring, MD | reply to ronpin
Re: Verizon -- and the rest of 'em
Yeah, I'm on VZ FIOS and I'm not looking back......well, I only look back to laugh in the face of those still on DSL or Cable. |
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wsanders
join:2002-09-18
Lafayette, CA
| reply to pcscdma
Re: Cable is better than ISDN!
>>>DSL is better than cable when the local DSL provider sucks >>>less than the local cable provider.
>>>Cable is better than DSL when the local cable provider >>>sucks less than the local DSL provider.
'zactly. And to paraphrase my SBC-Yahoo review, "either is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick." |
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st4t1c
Nihilist.
Premium
join:2004-10-03
Boulder Creek, CA | both suck
broadband is evil and anyone who works for a broadband company is employed by satan. |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
|  Hmmmmm..........
 Nobody wants to spend a cent on infrastructure....that's why we are slipping world wide....for dsl the distance issues could be overcomed if they really wanted to....we are like a third world country when it comes to broadband, ( no slur on 3rd world country)
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Fubar
join:2001-02-20
Phoenix, AZ
| Cable has a long way to go...
»investor.cisco.com/phoenix.zhtml···=677912&
"Cisco Systems and Himawari Network Announce Trials of Technology Delivering up to 1 Gbps Broadband Speeds on Existing Hybrid Fiber Coax Networks
02-23-05 08:01 AM EST | SAN JOSE, Calif. --(BUSINESS WIRE)--
Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS(TM) Trial at Toyota Dream Home
Cisco Systems(R) (Nasdaq: CSCO) and Himawari Network, Inc. today announced they have begun trials of Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS(TM), a new technology able to deliver up to 1 gigabit per second (Gbps) broadband speeds to consumers and businesses over existing hybrid fiber coax (HFC) networks. The trial, being conducted at the Toyota Dream Home at Aichi prefecture in Japan, will showcase the ability to converge video, data traffic onto a single IP-based high-speed service offering, providing cable operators increased service flexibility and lowering deployment and operational costs.
"Wideband technology will expand the business opportunities for cable operators and accelerate the acceptance of home networking by enabling an IP-based entertainment and communication solution," said Hironobu Okumura, president of Himawari Network. "This will drive market demand and our ability to deliver advanced services such as High Definition Television (HDTV), Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP), video on demand and on-line gaming."
The Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS was pioneered by Cisco, and augments HFC network bandwidth by adding one of more additional downstreams to the standard broadband DOCSIS system. This new set of downstream channels is grouped into one larger channel, and is known as a Wideband channel.
The Himawari Wideband trial is based on Cisco's uBR10012 Cable Modem Termination System (CMTS) platform, enabling customers to utilize existing investments to improve time-to-market and drive profitability. Since Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS is compatible with existing DOCSIS 1.x and 2.0 specifications, Himawari will be able to use the technology in parallel with existing modem deployments to provide a migration path to additional high speed service offerings. As part of the trial, Linksys, a division of Cisco Systems, Inc., will provide the Wideband cable modem which can receive and process data streams transmitted by the CMTS on multiple radio frequency channels.
The trial was launched by Himawari Network in December and provides the foundation for an expanded program over the next year as the technology matures and subscriber demand grows.
"We are honored to be working with Himawari on this project," said Pankaj Patel, vice president of the Cisco Broadband and Edge Midrange Routing Business Unit. "Himawari Network is one of the most forward-thinking cable operators in the world and this trial is evidence of their commitment to industry leadership and service excellence." " |
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Monster Rain
Premium
join:2002-08-03
USA
| reply to fundamentalz
Re: DSL > Cable
said by fundamentalz  :IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. LOL ...glad you added the "IMO" part. |
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | reply to KeepOnRockin
Re: Here We Go Again
I like the speed of cable, and the hosting and non caps of DSL. Until Qwest gets their act together, I can see leaving cable at all.
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djdanska
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join:2001-04-21
Glen Ellyn, IL
clubs:
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·T-Mobile US
·A + Net
·Mediacom
·RCN CABLE
| reply to fundamentalz
Re: DSL > Cable
said by fundamentalz :IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. You really cant rely on sharing with all your neighbors. If only they could get around the distance issues, dsl would be much more dominant I wouldn't get dsl now even if i could. I don't care about sharing with my neighbors. big whip. A properly maintained cable system will have constant speeds all the time. In the 8 years ive had a cable modem, i have only had a slowdown once or twice, (and it usually wasn't mediaone or tci or att broadbands fault. It was outside their network.) I just can't see anybody who knows anything about the technology paying good money to get 1.5 (Or even 3.0!)! I can't! Until they up the speeds of dsl, or deploy a new version of dsl with faster speeds, im keeping my 6600/768 for Just over $60.00.
There is another thing that i take into consideration. I have been screwed around by ameritech and sbc so much with my local service that even if dsl was perfect and i could get fast speeds, wouldn't get it just for the simple fact that they just hate the company or just doesn't want to give more of their own hard earned money to a company that doesn't even know their right hand from their left.
I know what your going to say. the cable companies are evil, they charge the $15.00 for non catv customers, the unknown caps, 2gb limit on newsgroups, the faster speeds with @home, and who knows what else. what would i rather have, $100.00 dsl with sbc for 6meg or $60.00 for 6.6 with those limitations i mentioned above. Some people are more prone to get the sbc route, others don't care about those issues and pay a little less.
I don't see dsl in its current form to be the next big thing. Fiber? Possibly. But i still don't see it killing the cable companies anytime. They will co-exist, and hopefully will improve in time.
end or rant.
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neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA
 ·Broadvox Direct
| Cable seems better
If you have techs that know what they are doing Cable HSI rocks. Yea your on a shared neighborhood network but for me I don't notice it. The tech I talk with says that my bandwidth is not affected if someone in the neighborhood is doing heavy usage. With DSL your sharing occurs upstream at the CO level.
Unless they want to bond copper to extend distances for today's DSL I see cable winning in the long run. Now with Fios entering the picture I think fiber will change everything farther down the long run. |
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