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Comments on news posted 2005-02-23 14:09:17: Via Podcast and over at Wired News, Larry Lessig opines on "Why Your Broadband Sucks": "Pushed by lobbyists, at least 14 states have passed legislation similar to Pennsylvania's (muni stifling HB30). ..

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schmunk
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Defiance, OH

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Who needs the Government?

They spend your tax dollars like a child in a candy or toy store. More like a thief with a stolen credit card.


packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
What's new?

This is apparently how this government works. You pay the right people you get what you want. It just become more obvious as the days pass.. Get used to it as it will never change. EVER!

DirtyMic

join:2003-11-19
Pompano Beach, FL
Amen

^ see subject above.


rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
hmm

gotto love lawyers
(haha)> »dirtylawyers.com/

soothsayer15

join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX


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Citizens will do Nothing

It will never change because people are too lazy to care. Most people just wants service that runs and don't have to think about. Only techophiles are hardcore about his subject. Politicians take lobbyist's money because it keeps them in office. The only way to stay in office is to run misleading ads to an uninformed public willing to believe lies told in campaign ads. Also Broadband does not rank very high on the political scale.


HardwareGeek

join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY

tax

We all forget about the tax issue. If our local governments set up broadband even those who don't use it will be taxed in a way because of it. Plus if the local government is having a fiscal crisis you will see crappy service.

Plus if the state runs your wireless-net imagine all of the filtering they would have to add and all the lawsuits they will be hit with. The ACLU, the Parents against Obscene Material, The anti-religion people, the pro religion people all trying to get the state or town to allow or disallow something. Broadband run by the state will be like Broadband from China. Plus imagine how easier it would be for the government to spy on people.

We all think it's good because we hear the word FREE well we live in the USA there isn't anything free.
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packetscan
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Bridgeport, CT
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Re: Citizens will do Nothing

I see and agree..

Problem is most people think ( oh my thoughts don't count ).

Well the only thoughts that don't count are the ones not said.


AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
reply to HardwareGeek
Re: tax

You are missing the point.

I use the internet, so the government should offer a free service for my needs.

It's in the constitution.
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The_man_with_no_name

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Yes and no.

While municipal broadband's service may suck in non-technical areas, it does do one very important thing. It provides competition. Areas with municipal broadband have seen a sudden, sharp decrease in the cost of service across all providers.

Just because someone offers munibb doesn't mean that you have to sign up for it. If you dislike the service, there is competition. What this does is force the local providers to be more competitive... which is, of course, the exact opposite of what these companies want to do.

Anti-munibb laws are inherently anti-competition bills wrapped in "consumer protection" clothing. It's a scam. We should have a nationwide wireless internet by now. Let companies compete fairly or not at all. Fortunately most of these bills are inherently flawed. They're either too weak and easy to bypass, or too strong and likely to be tossed out. The one in Texas is worded so broadly that it forbids local munis from even "providing information." That's right, your local city council can't even have a website. LOL. There's no way that's going to stand on appeal.

All these companies are doing, in the end, is throwing fuel on the fire of telco distrust. Anti-trust movements take time to build, but when it happens... look out.


HardwareGeek

join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY

reply to AthlGrond
Re: tax

Where in the Constitution does it say the Government has to provide you with a luxury for free?

Hell if that's the case where is my Free Cable TV? Where is my Free Medical? Where are the free hookers located at?
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02

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reply to HardwareGeek
Not all community broadband projects use tax dollars.

And suggesting a small town running fiber means they'll start spying on you is baseless.


ctceo
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South Bend, IN
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What were getting.

Throttleband, NOT BROADband.


Orwell1984

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reply to HardwareGeek
Re: tax

Which Telco do you work for?


AthlGrond
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reply to HardwareGeek
The constitutionality of free Cable and Medical are easily proven. I spend monies on those, so that is where the government needs to be helping me out.

I just don't see support for free hookers at this time, since I don't use them. But since the constitution is a living document, perhaps next year I'll take a trip to NV and see how how the founding fathers had intended for that all along.
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Save the whales. Collect the whole set.


digiblur
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Louisiana

This is why!

This is why 'My Broadband Sucks' - All on the first page of threads in the Cox HSI forum:

»[LA] Connection problems
»[LA] Anyone else having problems in the BatonRouge area
»[LA] Infuriatingly crippling loss
»[LA] not happy
»[LA] New Cox Customer!
»[LA] Slow download speeds. Walker, LA
»[LA] Cox slowdown Kenner LA
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some guy

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Re: Citizens will do Nothing

to government, the only thoughts that don't count are the ones made by people who didn't donate a few thousand to their campaign fund/party

a letter to your senator will only get you so far--a letter with a donation reciept will get you anything you want

russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA

Anti-muni legislation

I like it. Means that if I decide to quit my job, lease some space on nearby water towers, and set up a wireless ISP, the local towns won't put me out of business with their own subsidized service.

Instead, I'll go out of business all on my own...

Edward27

join:2002-04-28
Canton, GA
It is embarrassing that....

The US is 13th in broadband internet service. While parts of the world have 30+ Mbps download speeds, parts of the US do not have anything but dial-up, and most of the US has less than 4 Mbps.


bpl-pro


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Re: BPL faster than CABLE

i love my 200 MBPS broadband over powerlines in NEW YORK CITY ...SAME DOWLOAD/UPLOAD speed !!!

JPCass

join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO

reply to schmunk
Re: Who needs the Government?

Oh, yeah. There's no paradise like Waziristan, Mindanao, the Golden Triangle of Asia, the Amazonian borderlands, the outer provinces of Afghanistan, or the Asian republics of Russia. Why is it that all the real hot spots have no functioning government? Or did I misunderstand the meaning of "hot spot" in those contexts?
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