woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
 ·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| Hmmmm.........
"First and foremost, Lavasoft does not have collaborations with any company that has or will have content detected by Ad-Aware. WhenU was indeed removed from our database by research in the last definition file. This was due to WhenU not scoring more than 2 TAC points at the time. In case it turns out that the removal was incorrect, WhenU will naturally be reintroduced to the database."
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so they say......I'm going to chuck it anyway
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Dan
Hamilton Tigers?
Premium
join:2002-12-17
Eh? | Good Work Karl!
Karl, I always enjoy reading your rants and posts. They are always very well thought out, and knowledgable.
I want to thank you, and keep up the good work mate!
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Plldwnyrpnts
join:2003-04-19
Chicago, IL | reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmm.........
I won't be chucking it. I'll just consider it less reliable. And as always, it will not be the only scanner I use. |
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CampMaster
Rather Be Camp'n
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join:2001-05-16
Trabuco Canyon, CA
·DSL EXTREME
 ·ViaTalk
 ·Cox HSI
| said by Plldwnyrpnts  :I won't be chucking it. I'll just consider it less reliable. And as always, it will not be the only scanner I use. Same here. Pretty sad though and duly noted for future reference and recommendations to others.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | FRAUD
It's self explanatory. |
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Viper007Bond
Premium
join:2002-09-26
Portland, OR
| reply to Plldwnyrpnts
Re: Hmmmm.........
Same goes for me as well.
I've been relying on Microsoft's lately actually. It caught the Cydoor that came with eXeem while Ad-Aware did not.
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| reply to packetscan
Re: FRAUD
Judge, Jury, and Executioner (dslreports) says "THE SKY IS FALLING!" "THE SKY IS FALLING!"
God forbid you take a company's statement at face value. Why don't you guys drop the paranoia, take off your little aluminum foil hats, and unclench?
Then wait a little bit and see what happens before you all jump off the spyware cliff like a bunch of lemmings.
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:  | reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmm.........
Sad,... I really liked using ad-aware. Time to look up alternatives that offer a complete unbiased package.
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Goldman
join:2002-06-21
Maumelle, AR
| reply to Wills
Re: FRAUD
said by Wills :God forbid you take a company's statement at face value. The statement doesn't match the facts. I think most here are still trying to give Lavasoft a chance. But that window of opportunity is closing quickly for them. |
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vonsen
Just Because
Premium
join:2005-01-06
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said by Wills :Judge, Jury, and Executioner (dslreports) says "THE SKY IS FALLING!" "THE SKY IS FALLING!" God forbid you take a company's statement at face value. Why don't you guys drop the paranoia And cigarettes don't cause cancer either. There's more spin in your reply than lavasoft's. Some skepticism is warranted in view of lavasoft's lame response. Their future actions will speak volumes, but for now, adaware goes down several notches, duly noted in use and recommendations.
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HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO | Ditched
I wil be ditching it now for SSD, when they fail to keep something as notorious as WhenU, I am gone
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Buddel
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Premium
join:2004-03-06
EU
| reply to Plldwnyrpnts
Re: Hmmmm.........
said by Plldwnyrpnts :I won't be chucking it. I'll just consider it less reliable. And as always, it will not be the only scanner I use. Yep!:) |
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Edward27
join:2002-04-28
Canton, GA
| reply to Wills
Re: FRAUD
With all the problems people have keeping their computers clean of viruses and spy-ware, it is no wonder that people react this way to this type information. People spend a lot of time and money on software programs to help keep their computers "clean". Often times these purchases are based on a level of "trust" that these programs will in fact help protect them.
I have 6 computers on my own home network that I must protect from viruses and spy-ware. If I have to replace one of my protection programs because I no longer trust it, that is going to cost me time and money. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Well
load up Spyware Blaster, and Spybot S&D they work togather and do so very, very well. |
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Admj
join:2001-01-17
Placentia, CA
|  reply to Edward27
Re: FRAUD
With all the problems people have keeping their computers clean of viruses and spy-ware, it is no wonder that people react this way to this type information. People spend a lot of time and money on software programs to help keep their computers "clean". Often times these purchases are based on a level of "trust" that these programs will in fact help protect them.
 Well put, I too have many computers to protect, who can you trust? Will anti-virus companies take on the challenge of providing anti-spyware? And will they take bribes? |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | KAV with Extended bases removes WhenU...  |
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chodemode
@comcast.net
| reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmm.........
Am I the only one here who thinks this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion? It was made quite clear yesterday that WhenU is not "malicious" software.
WhenU is installed BY CHOICE by the user AFTER reading (or being given the opportunity to read) the EULA terms, which clearly explain what the software does. Furthermore, the software may be removed by the user at any time via Add/Remove Programs.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending WhenU or any type of adware. But I think you people are taking this way too far...talking about "trust" and all this garbage. Users need to take some responsibility and stop relying on various "security" software companies to hold your hand every minute that you use your PC. If you have WhenU (or any other adware for that matter) on your PC, it's most likely because YOU were given a choice to install it, and you chose to install it. Don't turn around and get all fired up at Lavasoft/PestPatrol for following the same procedures they have been following for years. Threats are added and removed from these companies' databases every day. Oddly nobody seemed to care until WhenU was removed...and what makes WhenU a special case still baffles me.
It's almost comical that people are chucking Adaware over this. Do you have any idea how less secure your PC is without Adaware or PestPatrol? Do you really thing Aluria is going to offer better protection (Aluria actually does have a marketing agreement with WhenU, Lavasoft does not...and Aluria is ADWARE SUPPORTED!)?
The ignorance is astounding. Educate yourselves. Protect your own PC, don't rely on someone else to do it for you. No one adware-scanner is going to detect every trace of adware. The best strategy is to use multiple scanners, and PAY ATTENTION to what you are installing. WhenU is installed by choice.
Alarmism will get you nowhere. Paranoia breeds mistrust. Wake up people. |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
1 edit | reply to packetscan
Re: FRAUD
Flying off the handle ? going overboard?
I think not.. You don't see Microsoft saying they signed a deal with xyz who wrote the klez.. So now all machines can be infected because they are paying microsoft. ( the proven fact was that WhenU had been installing software with out knowledge, not hiding in a Eula but with out knowledge).
Maybe that helps you better understand what is at stake here. We are relying on this companies to be fair and legit which lavasoft obviously doesn't understand. Let me telly u this, If i was a corporate customer the legal department would be up their ars right now demanding a full refund.
Get a clue people! |
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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
| reply to vonsen
said by vonsen :Their future actions will speak volumes, but for now, adaware goes down several notches, duly noted in use and recommendations.
And . . . if Lavasoft decides to admit to wrongdoing, for whatever reason, but do the "right thing" and add WhenU back into their reference file, I'll still feel compelled to qualify all future recommendations to others with the facts of this current situation. The knowledge of past actions always influences future decisions.
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